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canuck31003
10-03-2007, 04:22 PM
I thought this was kind of depressing, not because some parents may and this company feels there's a need to equip students with Kevlar, but depressing because of the thought that they might be right. http://backpackshield.com.

"Stronger than a sewn in level II liner, the BACKPACKSHIELD tm is N.I.J. Level IIIA & stops hardened higher velocity 9 mm Full Metal Jacket (copper) and 44 Magnum (SWC) rounds flat in their tracks. The patented DupontTM KevlarŪ multilayer ballistic composite BACKPACKSHIELD tm weighs less than a text book, measures 17" high by 12 " wide, is less than 1/2" thick, and fits inside 1000's of standard size (High School & Collegiate) backpacks. It's available in a variety of school colors, optional personalized photo (i.e. favorite athlete, pet, team, mascot etc.)"

Ummm... I hope I don't need to belabor the obvious :), but what the heck: in no way whatsoever am I advocating parents buy their kids one, or not; I have no connection to the website.

recon228
10-03-2007, 04:44 PM
It's unfortunate that we've reached the point where a product like this actually seems like a viable option. :ohwell: While I'm not advocating the armed teacher concept that some folks have thrown around, there's got to be a better solution for our kids than simply armoring them up and hoping the gunman doesn't aim for the head.

An obvious solution for college students can be to allow those who posses valid CCW permits to carry on campus (I know California and many other states already allow this), though I really can't think of what can be done about our K-12 schools.

I know all of us would like to think that this isn't going to happen again, but the fact is there will be another school shooting... it's an unfortunate inevitability. :dubiety:

Fireand'chutes77
10-03-2007, 06:04 PM
I included something like this in "OLS," but I didn't know they were actually made... and for students, for that matter. Depressing, indeed. :dubiety:

"...Check your backpack, too!”

Laying aside the new clothes, Kim lifted a backpack from the bottom of the box. It was heavier and bulkier than her current one. She rapped her knuckles against a plate behind the backrest portion.

“The backpack’s rear has a bullet-resistant plate sewn into it," Wade explained, "It’s a thin ceramic core encased in Kevlar. Ron’s got one as well. It’ll protect your back, and if held, your front, against low-caliber small-arms fire.”

Cloud23465
10-05-2007, 10:47 AM
I included something like this in "OLS," but I didn't know they were actually made... and for students, for that matter. Depressing, indeed. :dubiety:

It is... it's truely sad that something like this is becoming more and more common in schools and colleges. What doesn't make since is these people should be "educated" and know better then to do things like this..:dubiety:

jeriddian
10-05-2007, 02:20 PM
I included something like this in "OLS," but I didn't know they were actually made... and for students, for that matter. Depressing, indeed. :dubiety:

It is... it's truely sad that something like this is becoming more and more common in schools and colleges. What doesn't make since is these people should be "educated" and know better then to do things like this..:dubiety:

The problem is also that those kids who are driven by their environment and social situations to commit these crimes don't have the maturity and judgement to understand what they are doing. But we may have no choice but to make our schools virtual armed camps if that's what it takes to protect the children, despite the fact it is so extreme.:dubiety:

Cloud23465
10-05-2007, 02:57 PM
I included something like this in "OLS," but I didn't know they were actually made... and for students, for that matter. Depressing, indeed. :dubiety:

It is... it's truely sad that something like this is becoming more and more common in schools and colleges. What doesn't make since is these people should be "educated" and know better then to do things like this..:dubiety:

The problem is also that those kids who are driven by their environment and social situations to commit these crimes don't have the maturity and judgement to understand what they are doing. But we may have no choice but to make our schools virtual armed camps if that's what it takes to protect the children, despite the fact it is so extreme.:dubiety:

What happened to having guts? Back when I was in school and people had probelms with each other... they took it outside and let there fist do the talking. Using a gun is the cowards way to settle an arguement.:dubiety:

Fireand'chutes77
10-05-2007, 03:27 PM
I included something like this in "OLS," but I didn't know they were actually made... and for students, for that matter. Depressing, indeed. :dubiety:

It is... it's truely sad that something like this is becoming more and more common in schools and colleges. What doesn't make since is these people should be "educated" and know better then to do things like this..:dubiety:

The problem is also that those kids who are driven by their environment and social situations to commit these crimes don't have the maturity and judgement to understand what they are doing. But we may have no choice but to make our schools virtual armed camps if that's what it takes to protect the children, despite the fact it is so extreme.:dubiety:

What happened to having guts? Back when I was in school and people had probelms with each other... they took it outside and let there fist do the talking. Using a gun is the cowards way to settle an arguement.:dubiety:
But it's more effective. That's the bottom line for everything. And these days, it's not cowardly; it's "gangsta." :ohwell:

Cloud23465
10-05-2007, 03:35 PM
But it's more effective. That's the bottom line for everything. And these days, it's not cowardly; it's "gangsta." :ohwell:
Oh, Jeez... I know i'm not up with the times. Gangsta you say? Well I guess i can never be gangsta then. Guns should mainly used for protection... there's nothing gangsta about a coward in my book.:mad:

jeriddian
10-05-2007, 06:06 PM
But it's more effective. That's the bottom line for everything. And these days, it's not cowardly; it's "gangsta." :ohwell:
Oh, Jeez... I know i'm not up with the times. Gangsta you say? Well I guess i can never be gangsta then. Guns should mainly used for protection... there's nothing gangsta about a coward in my book.:mad:

There is nothing noble or honorable about the "Gangsta" philosophy. It is nothing more than gang mentality. A criminal gang is just that, whether it was the from the Irish gangs of New York in the late 1800's, to Jewish gangs of the early 20th century, to La Cosa Nostra, to the present incarnation defined by that word. Their indiscriminate use of firearms is just as indicative of their disdain for human life any of their predecessors. Unfortunately, when they do use them, we have to often up the ante and protect ourselves with them as well.:ohwell:

Cloud23465
10-05-2007, 09:46 PM
But it's more effective. That's the bottom line for everything. And these days, it's not cowardly; it's "gangsta." :ohwell:
Oh, Jeez... I know i'm not up with the times. Gangsta you say? Well I guess i can never be gangsta then. Guns should mainly used for protection... there's nothing gangsta about a coward in my book.:mad:

There is nothing noble or honorable about the "Gangsta" philosophy. It is nothing more than gang mentality. A criminal gang is just that, whether it was the from the Irish gangs of New York in the late 1800's, to Jewish gangs of the early 20th century, to La Cosa Nostra, to the present incarnation defined by that word. Their indiscriminate use of firearms is just as indicative of their disdain for human life any of their predecessors. Unfortunately, when they do use them, we have to often up the ante and protect ourselves with them as well.:ohwell:

I could't of said this better myself. The Crap I call Rap does basically teach nothing more then this mentailty and i'm fed up with it.

TransWarpDrive
10-06-2007, 02:38 PM
It's a little disconcerting to realize that there's a serious market for this item, especially since it's designed to help protect our children from gunfire in our schools.:blink: Sometimes I wonder if our current civilization's undergoing a decline similar to that of the Roman Empire...:unsure:

jeriddian
10-06-2007, 06:11 PM
Some people would say it's due to a decline in overall morals, in addition to a deterioration of our schools in terms of quality. Of course, it's multi-factorial, and a declining economic status also partly to blame, I think. Trying to fix it, though, Is going to be extremely difficult.:dubiety: