Deadliest Catch

[GoTeamGirl]

During April I started watching this show and got hooked. It's just a really good reality show. I mean, I can't imagine doing what they do, and it's so risky! And when the seas are choppy the waves are so huge! Yet they keep on working.

I find myself getting really excited when they get a lot of crabs out of a pot. As for boats, I like the Northwestern.

[Cloud23465]

I've been watching since the first season and love it even more every season. My favorite boats... Tie for 1st favorite between the Cornelia Marie and the Northwestern. And the Time Bandits is a close second.

[TransWarpDrive]

I've been watching since the first season and love it even more every season. My favorite boats... Tie for 1st favorite between the Cornelia Marie and the Northwestern. And the Time Bandits is a close second.
Mine too! It's interesting watching the interpersonal dynamics on each boat play out. For instance: How Capt. Phil and his sons get along on the Cornelia Marie; or how the Northwestern's greenhorn, Jake, is trying to learn the ropes from the deck boss, Edgar (Capt. Sig's brother), while that other deck hand, Matt, is seething with resentment over what he perceives as Jake's "kissing up" to Edgar. Not to mention how Johnathan's son jumped ship over on the Time Bandit to take care of his wife and newborn son, rather than stay in the family business.
Almost like a seagoing soap opera, don't you think? :P

[lunchmeat]

I can personally attest to the weather shown on the show, I've been at sea in the areas that the show features in a vessel of similar size. One of the funnier aspects was how when I first got off the ship I zigzagged down the pier as if we were still fighting the waves, entirely subconciously.

Out at the end of the Aluetions is Adak Island, which has the weirdest National Forest in the US, all the trees are about six feet high and at about a thirty degree angle to the ground from the constant wind.

[Cloud23465]

Your not kidding. I actually clapped when Phil finally found some king crab after almost pulling up blanks in all the pots on his first trip out. I was a little mad when no one would answer him when he called out for advice on where some crab was. Phils kids... there ok but they still have to learn respect for there dad skill and $$$ wise.

As for the northwestern with Jake... He's a young kid who seems to have a passion for the job and wants to learn. I was the same way with him when I started working as a longshoreman. I wanted to learn everything and try as much as I could. Matt has some serious emotional problems... Jakes a kid and probably can be a little annoying but, what Matts pulled... his actions wern't justified.

The Time Bandit is an emotional favorite for me after he saved that guy that fell off the ship last season. It sucks his kid bailed out and doesn't want to continue the family business. But I guess it's not for everyone... even family of those that do it for a living.

This season has been great and hopefully there wont be anymore lives lost and it will end good.:thumbup:

I've been watching since the first season and love it even more every season. My favorite boats... Tie for 1st favorite between the Cornelia Marie and the Northwestern. And the Time Bandits is a close second.
Mine too! It's interesting watching the interpersonal dynamics on each boat play out. For instance: How Capt. Phil and his sons get along on the Cornelia Marie; or how the Northwestern's greenhorn, Jake, is trying to learn the ropes from the deck boss, Edgar (Capt. Sig's brother), while that other deck hand, Matt, is seething with resentment over what he perceives as Jake's "kissing up" to Edgar. Not to mention how Johnathan's son jumped ship over on the Time Bandit to take care of his wife and newborn son, rather than stay in the family business.
Almost like a seagoing soap opera, don't you think? :P

[GoTeamGirl]

I actually haven't seen seasons 1 or 2, but I have seen seasons 3 and what's been aired of 4. But there's a marathon today that's showing the best of both seasons 1 and 2, and I want to see it because I'm really curious about the beginning of this show.

It's weird but it is like a soap opera. People ask me why I like to watch a show about crab fishing, but it's more than that. You see how people interact with each other when pushed to their limits, and when there's so much on the line. There's a lot of interesting things going on and a lot of suspense.

[TransWarpDrive]

I actually haven't seen seasons 1 or 2, but I have seen seasons 3 and what's been aired of 4. But there's a marathon today that's showing the best of both seasons 1 and 2, and I want to see it because I'm really curious about the beginning of this show.

It's weird but it is like a soap opera. People ask me why I like to watch a show about crab fishing, but it's more than that. You see how people interact with each other when pushed to their limits, and when there's so much on the line. There's a lot of interesting things going on and a lot of suspense.
Exactly! When you come right down to it, it's basically about people - in this case, people who risk their lives in inclement weather fishing for crab. It's all about the human factor, with its moments of comedy and drama - that's what makes shows like "Deadliest Catch" compelling television.

[GoTeamGirl]

I just saw the best of seasons 1 and 2. It's interesting-in season 1 the only boats I recognized was the Northwestern and the Time Bandit (I think), at least for the first half. Most of the boats were ones I'd never heard of.

And I never knew the guy from Dirty Jobs was the narrator. :laugh:

[Cloud23465]

I just saw the best of seasons 1 and 2. It's interesting-in season 1 the only boats I recognized was the Northwestern and the Time Bandit (I think), at least for the first half. Most of the boats were ones I'd never heard of.

And I never knew the guy from Dirty Jobs was the narrator. :laugh:

Yeah, few boats have gone through all the seasons... If you didn't see them say, there's really no extra room for the camera men on the boats so, they have to sleep anywhere they can. I guess some boats can deal with it and some can't. I think Mike Rowes been doing a good job narrating in my book.

[TransWarpDrive]

I just saw the best of seasons 1 and 2. It's interesting-in season 1 the only boats I recognized was the Northwestern and the Time Bandit (I think), at least for the first half. Most of the boats were ones I'd never heard of.

And I never knew the guy from Dirty Jobs was the narrator. :laugh:

Yeah, few boats have gone through all the seasons... If you didn't see them say, there's really no extra room for the camera men on the boats so, they have to sleep anywhere they can. I guess some boats can deal with it and some can't. I think Mike Rowes been doing a good job narrating in my book.

Yes, Mike Rowe has an excellent voice for narration work. He could make a whole career out of that if he wanted to. (Personally, I'd rather narrate than do what he does on "Dirty Jobs." There isn't enough money in the world to pay me for working the jobs he has on that show, even for just one day. Yecch!):thumbdown:

[Cloud23465]

I just saw the best of seasons 1 and 2. It's interesting-in season 1 the only boats I recognized was the Northwestern and the Time Bandit (I think), at least for the first half. Most of the boats were ones I'd never heard of.

And I never knew the guy from Dirty Jobs was the narrator. :laugh:

Yeah, few boats have gone through all the seasons... If you didn't see them say, there's really no extra room for the camera men on the boats so, they have to sleep anywhere they can. I guess some boats can deal with it and some can't. I think Mike Rowes been doing a good job narrating in my book.

Yes, Mike Rowe has an excellent voice for narration work. He could make a whole career out of that if he wanted to. (Personally, I'd rather narrate than do what he does on "Dirty Jobs." There isn't enough money in the world to pay me for working the jobs he has on that show, even for just one day. Yecch!):thumbdown:

Yeah... that's a show that almost anytime that i'm eating... there's no way it can stay on for long. :sick: I hope he make good money for what he has to go through.:confused::unsure:

[Cloud23465]

New Episode tomorrow night. I think this is probably going to be the last King crab episode for this season.

Hey, TWD... What's your feelings on when they ended the derby style crabbing and went to the quota system? I know the intentions of the Alaska Department of Fish and Game was to make things safer for the fisherman but... over half the of the fleet was out of work. I hate to see hard working people loose their jobs but then again... it's worse to see them be killed.

[GoTeamGirl]

I just saw the best of seasons 1 and 2. It's interesting-in season 1 the only boats I recognized was the Northwestern and the Time Bandit (I think), at least for the first half. Most of the boats were ones I'd never heard of.

And I never knew the guy from Dirty Jobs was the narrator. :laugh:

Yeah, few boats have gone through all the seasons... If you didn't see them say, there's really no extra room for the camera men on the boats so, they have to sleep anywhere they can. I guess some boats can deal with it and some can't. I think Mike Rowes been doing a good job narrating in my book.

Yes, Mike Rowe has an excellent voice for narration work. He could make a whole career out of that if he wanted to. (Personally, I'd rather narrate than do what he does on "Dirty Jobs." There isn't enough money in the world to pay me for working the jobs he has on that show, even for just one day. Yecch!):thumbdown:

Dirty Jobs is funny. Mike is a good host-as well as a good narrator. Did anyone see the episode where he was cod fishing (from Dutch Harbor)? That was so gross, one of the worst I've ever seen. The guys kept throwing up out of sea sickness. And they also decided to eat weird parts of the fish...

Back on topic: I'm excited for the new episode. It's a good way to relax (sort of) before bed. Just watch a show about dangerous crab fishing and dream about...dangerous crab fishing. :P

[Cloud23465]

It's going to be intresting to see how things on the Northwestern go...with that fight... I feel like there's going to be a shake-up in the crew before the opilio crab (aka Snow crab) season. I'm not sure Jake and Matt can coexist on the same boat after what happened. :unsure:

[GoTeamGirl]

It's going to be intresting to see how things on the Northwestern go...with that fight... I feel like there's going to be a shake-up in the crew before the opilio crab (aka Snow crab) season. I'm not sure Jake and Matt can coexist on the same boat after what happened. :unsure:

That fight was pretty interesting. Matt just totally lost control, but they sort of settled it in the end. That's dangerous though and it's lucky they weren't in a really bad storm while that happened.

Next week's episode apparently has really big waves on the Northwestern. It's still King Crab season, though (for next week).

[Cloud23465]

Next week's episode apparently has really big waves on the Northwestern. It's still King Crab season, though (for next week).

I guess due to the shows popularity... they're doing more episodes this season then last... which is cool with me. But seeing as season one only had 2-3 episodes on king crab and a total of 10 for the whole seson. Things have changed big time over time.

[GoTeamGirl]

Didn't Season One's king crab season only last a few days,though? Now it's a few weeks, which probably would explain more episodes.

I'm watching a season 3 episode now...

[Cloud23465]

Didn't Season One's king crab season only last a few days,though? Now it's a few weeks, which probably would explain more episodes.

Ture. But even now that they have so much more time to catch the crab and catch footage... season 2 and 3 have only produced 12 acutal episodes per season (not counting the specials). Season 4 looks to be 11 episodes?:unsure:

[TransWarpDrive]

New Episode tomorrow night. I think this is probably going to be the last King crab episode for this season.

Hey, TWD... What's your feelings on when they ended the derby style crabbing and went to the quota system? I know the intentions of the Alaska Department of Fish and Game was to make things safer for the fisherman but... over half the of the fleet was out of work. I hate to see hard working people loose their jobs but then again... it's worse to see them be killed.
To be honest, I have no opinion on it one way or another. I really don't know all that much about crab fishing, other than what I've learned from watching this show. I'm still not sure how long the season lasts for each kind of crab - Red King, Opilio (sp?), or Brown King. I didn't even know Brown King crab existed, let alone how they fished for them, until this season.
I'll tell you this much: Watching "Deadliest Catch" has sparked my curiosity about crab fishing, and I'd like to learn more about it. However, I'm not about to go sign up as a deckhand on one of those boats - the work's too grueling; the hours are long; and I'm too old to try that sort of thing. I turn 50 at the end of this coming November, and it's like the captain of the Wizard said the other day - "This is a young man's game." And he was discussing his 35-year-old greenhorn, that fellow named Moi (pronounced "MOY") who was falling to pieces on his first voyage as a deckhand. No, first-hand research like that is definitely out for me; I prefer to learn about it in the comfort of my home or the local library.

[Cloud23465]

In 2004, the last derby season and the first season of dealiest catch... the red king crab season only lasted 4 days! The Red King crab season now can be up to 6 weeks im guessing. According to some charts from ADFG Reds are from mid to end of September and mid to the end of October.
Opilio are fished from mid Jaunuary to the end of May. I've seen the Opilio season around 2 weeks in 2004 as well.. The fleet size went from around 250 in 2004 to around 90 in 2005.

Here's that chart from Alaska Department of Fish and Game.
www.cf.adfg.state.ak.us/geninfo/pubs/seasons/season_1.pdf

[GoTeamGirl]

That's...wow. Derby-style seems too rushed to me.

On another note, I just saw what I believe was the last episode and the crew of the Northwestern returned, in the end, home in Seattle. It was just so touching to see them reunited with their families. And Edgar's comment that (and I'm paraphrasing) "Once you get into Puget(sp?) Sound, no matter how bad the season's been, you think, 'it wasn't that bad'."

[Cloud23465]

It was... and that's why the fatality rate was so high. It was a race to get the most crab you can before everyone else did. Most of the derby trips... crews stayed up for up to 60+ hours (well, that's what I've heard.) And when your that worn out and the bering sea kicks up a nice storm... something bad is bound to happen

Just a small bit on Phil Harris... I've seen the bits of how his heath has been all that great and I will say what it was Spoiler- In a scene to be shown later this season, a monster wave pummeled his boat in January, causing him to fall out of his bunk. He punctured a lung and broke his ribs. But his condition worsened after a blood clot dislodged from his leg and traveled to his heart. I knew it was bad but... dang.:dubiety:

[GoTeamGirl]

It was... and that's why the fatality rate was so high. It was a race to get the most crab you can before everyone else did. Most of the derby trips... crews stayed up for up to 60+ hours (well, that's what I've heard.) And when your that worn out and the bering sea kicks up a nice storm... something bad is bound to happen

Just a small bit on Phil Harris... I've seen the bits of how his heath has been all that great and I will say what it was Spoiler- In a scene to be shown later this season, a monster wave pummeled his boat in January, causing him to fall out of his bunk. He punctured a lung and broke his ribs. But his condition worsened after a blood clot dislodged from his leg and traveled to his heart. I knew it was bad but... dang.:dubiety:

I want to know what happens to him next week. I really hope he gets better, because that's not good, especially out at sea (especially that sea!).

[jeriddian]

That blood clot going to his heart is not the problem so much as going through the right heart circulation and then clogging into the lungs. It's called pulmonary embolism, and it can kill.

[Cloud23465]

That blood clot going to his heart is not the problem so much as going through the right heart circulation and then clogging into the lungs. It's called pulmonary embolism, and it can kill.

Yeah... Hopefully the problems was fixed before it became deadly.

[Cloud23465]

Another new episode to night, I think this is the one where it's going to focus more on Phil's health.

[GoTeamGirl]

I only got to watch about half of it, but from what I got Phil finally started resting. And it's almost the end of King Crab season...

[Cloud23465]

I only got to watch about half of it, but from what I got Phil finally started resting. And it's almost the end of King Crab season...

Yeah... phils diet of red bull, coffie and smokes are starting to take a toll on him and his health. I know I've seen the Preview for the next new episode and someone (it looks like) on the northwestern takes a direct hit to the head with the picking hook.... and the CM looses power? should be good!

[GoTeamGirl]

I only got to watch about half of it, but from what I got Phil finally started resting. And it's almost the end of King Crab season...

Yeah... phils diet of red bull, coffie and smokes are starting to take a toll on him and his health. I know I've seen the Preview for the next new episode and someone (it looks like) on the northwestern takes a direct hit to the head with the picking hook.... and the CM looses power? should be good!

I saw that commercial, and the hook part made me cringe. It should definitely be interesting.

[Cloud23465]

I only got to watch about half of it, but from what I got Phil finally started resting. And it's almost the end of King Crab season...

Yeah... phils diet of red bull, coffie and smokes are starting to take a toll on him and his health. I know I've seen the Preview for the next new episode and someone (it looks like) on the northwestern takes a direct hit to the head with the picking hook.... and the CM looses power? should be good!

I saw that commercial, and the hook part made me cringe. It should definitely be interesting.

I know whoever took that shot to the heads going to be seeing stars for a while.

[Cloud23465]

So it was Edgar who took the shot to the head... he was like what the heck was that? Judging by the previews the Opilio season... it's going to be another rough one.

[TransWarpDrive]

So it was Edgar who took the shot to the head... he was like what the heck was that? Judging by the previews the Opilio season... it's going to be another rough one.
Yeah, Opilio season usually is rough, coming as it does in January. Looks like those guys have their work cut out for them again...
As for Edgar getting clocked by that hook, all I can say is WOW! :blink: I'm surprised he didn't get hurt worse than he did. At least he was able to shrug it off, and get back to work. I feel sorry for Jake, though. He tried to catch the hook and missed; that's why it hit Edgar. Poor kid has to be feeling guilty about that - even if it was an accident.

[GoTeamGirl]

So it was Edgar who took the shot to the head... he was like what the heck was that? Judging by the previews the Opilio season... it's going to be another rough one.
Yeah, Opilio season usually is rough, coming as it does in January. Looks like those guys have their work cut out for them again...
As for Edgar getting clocked by that hook, all I can say is WOW! :blink: I'm surprised he didn't get hurt worse than he did. At least he was able to shrug it off, and get back to work. I feel sorry for Jake, though. He tried to catch the hook and missed; that's why it hit Edgar. Poor kid has to be feeling guilty about that - even if it was an accident.

I feel bad for both of them, but I'm really glad that Edgar wasn't seriously injured.

As for Phil, the commercials for tonights episode don't look very good at all...

[Cloud23465]

Good grief.... I can't believe Phil had another engine failure. After the disastrous third season problems he had... I just really feel for him cause he just can't seem to win. I wouldn't be at all shocked if he walked away from crabbing after the injuries he sustained from this season and more just pure bad luck. i was kinda shocked the way the last episode ended with the coast guard helicopter. I'm sure all will be well... but it wasn't looking good.

[TransWarpDrive]

Well, the Coast Guard chopper got to St. Paul OK (they diverted to there instead of where they were originally instructed to go, due to low fuel), and their patient got airlifted to Anchorage via airplane. As for Phil's problems, yeah, I feel sorry for him too. Unfortunately, these things happen - parts wear out on mechanical devices, especially fishing boats that get a lot of hard use over the years. We'll just have to wait and see how things go with the Corneilia Marie - and I'm sure Phil's not about to quit just because of these incidents. Crab fishing's in his blood; besides, the guy doesn't strike me as being the quitter type.
Now you want to talk about quitters, look at that greenhorn on the Wizard - that 35-year-old nicknamed "Moi." What with his attitude and work record during the king crab season, I suspect that his fishing career will end when opilio season is over. I seriously doubt that Keith will invite him back again next year - Moi just isn't cut out for crab fishing; and I think even he's beginning to realize it.

[Cloud23465]

I tell you.. the new episodes have been some real nail bitters. I was getting mad that Phil took so long to finally get medical attention. There's a difference between being a tough guy and being stupid. When your coughing up blood and don't think it's anything serious? That's just stupid! Most of the captains of the other boats are no sissies.. and they were telling him to get checked out. Then that storm that tore up the fleet... wow:blink: probably 2 or 3 more episodes and the season will probably be over with.

[jeriddian]

I tell you.. the new episodes have been some real nail bitters. I was getting mad that Phil took so long to finally get medical attention. There's a difference between being a tough guy and being stupid. When your coughing up blood and don't think it's anything serious? That's just stupid! Most of the captains of the other boats are no sissies.. and they were telling him to get checked out. Then that storm that tore up the fleet... wow:blink: probably 2 or 3 more episodes and the season will probably be over with.

You have no idea how much I run into that problem with patients........:rolleyes:.........

[TransWarpDrive]

I tell you.. the new episodes have been some real nail bitters. I was getting mad that Phil took so long to finally get medical attention. There's a difference between being a tough guy and being stupid. When your coughing up blood and don't think it's anything serious? That's just stupid! Most of the captains of the other boats are no sissies.. and they were telling him to get checked out. Then that storm that tore up the fleet... wow:blink: probably 2 or 3 more episodes and the season will probably be over with.

You have no idea how much I run into that problem with patients........:rolleyes:.........

I can imagine, jeriddian. It must be tough convincing some folks to go see their doctor.
I'll tell you, though; if I were coughing up blood, I'd be heading for the local ER lickety-damn-split, that's for sure...
Ain't no way I'd let something like that go unchecked; uh-uh.

[TransWarpDrive]

The season finale's this Tuesday night. It looks like it's going to be good - storms hit the fleet as they race to fill their quotas before the opilio season ends.
I also enjoy watching that spin-off series, "After The Catch," where the crab boat skippers sit around a table with Mike Rowe and discuss life as a fisherman.

[GoTeamGirl]

The season finale's this Tuesday night. It looks like it's going to be good - storms hit the fleet as they race to fill their quotas before the opilio season ends.
I also enjoy watching that spin-off series, "After The Catch," where the crab boat skippers sit around a table with Mike Rowe and discuss life as a fisherman.

I missed it! I don't know how, exactly, but I missed it. I saw the episodes before (except the one directly before the finale).

As for "After the Catch" I do find it enjoyable, though not as entertaining as the actual show. It's a good "behind-the-scenes" sort of thing, like a commentary on the show. I like that sort of thing. If I'm not tired I'll watch it (since it comes on at 10 where I am I might be tired sometimes).

[TransWarpDrive]

The season finale's this Tuesday night. It looks like it's going to be good - storms hit the fleet as they race to fill their quotas before the opilio season ends.
I also enjoy watching that spin-off series, "After The Catch," where the crab boat skippers sit around a table with Mike Rowe and discuss life as a fisherman.

I missed it! I don't know how, exactly, but I missed it. I saw the episodes before (except the one directly before the finale).

As for "After the Catch" I do find it enjoyable, though not as entertaining as the actual show. It's a good "behind-the-scenes" sort of thing, like a commentary on the show. I like that sort of thing. If I'm not tired I'll watch it (since it comes on at 10 where I am I might be tired sometimes).

I taped it last night while doing my laundry. I'll watch it tomorrow night when I get a chance. In fact, I recorded both "Deadliest Catch" and "After the Catch."

[GoTeamGirl]

I'll need to check my schedule to see if it comes on again...and then record it. In the mean time, I'll content myself with re-runs.

[TransWarpDrive]

I finally watched the season finale. What an ordeal it's been for those guys - especially Phil and his boys on the Cornelia Marie. I won't spoil it for you, GoTeamGirl, but suffice it to say Phil's health sitch puts his future as a crab fisherman in serious jeopardy - he reveals more details about it in the finale.
They spent eight weeks fishing for opilio crab this year - from mid-January to mid-March; I'm still not sure how long king crab season is.
All I know is, it's not something I'd like to try. For one thing, I'm way too old to do something like that. Crab fishing in the Bering Sea in the dead of winter is definitely a young man's job. For another, even if I were 30 years younger, I don't think I could keep the long hours they do - going 24 or 36 hours a stretch, hauling in crab pots, emptying & sorting them, then setting pots back out again - without a break. That's grueling work. You really have to want to do something like that; it's not a job you can take on a whim. Once you're on that boat and out to sea, you can't just quit and go home if you don't like it. You're stuck out there until they head back to port to off-load.
EDIT: (I posted a variation on this last paragraph back on May 15, so I apologize if I'm being redundant. My bad... :o)

[GoTeamGirl]

That doesn't sound good. I was wondering about Phil. Now I really have to see this.

I couldn't do anything like that either. It would be so hard and grueling and miserable. I would need to enjoy it somewhat in order to do it for a living.

[GoTeamGirl]

Sorry for the double post, but on an interesting note: I was on a trip to Rhode Island this weekend and we ate at this seafood buffet place called the Nordic Lodge. On a table they had autographed pictures of Sig and Edgar of the Northwestern because apparently they had eaten there. Edgar had written on his "Best food ever!" (or something very close to that). And it was good food. The king crabs were great...

[TransWarpDrive]

Sorry for the double post, but on an interesting note: I was on a trip to Rhode Island this weekend and we ate at this seafood buffet place called the Nordic Lodge. On a table they had autographed pictures of Sig and Edgar of the Northwestern because apparently they had eaten there. Edgar had written on his "Best food ever!" (or something very close to that). And it was good food. The king crabs were great...

Wow! Now that's cool! Eating in a restaurant where some of the "Deadliest Catch" guys ate! Only thing cooler would be to actually meet someone featured on the show!
One of the main reasons I got into watching "Deadliest Catch" is the fact that I like eating crab meat myself. So when I first heard about this show, I was curious about how crab was caught so I tuned in. I've been hooked (no fishing puns intended) ever since. :biggergrin:
EDIT: Oh, and don't worry about having made a double post. It's only if you do one post after the other on the same day that we'd consider it as such. Since your two posts were a week apart, you didn't double. :thumbup:

[GoTeamGirl]

That's good then. :)

It would have been awesome to meet some of the guys. I was thrilled that they had been there, though. And they approved of it. It was a great surprise.

[TransWarpDrive]

That's good then. :)

It would have been awesome to meet some of the guys. I was thrilled that they had been there, though. And they approved of it. It was a great surprise.

I've often wondered, myself, if crab fishermen (or any fishermen, for that matter) ate what they caught, or if they avoided eating it because they grew tired of it after a while.

[jeriddian]

That's good then. :)

It would have been awesome to meet some of the guys. I was thrilled that they had been there, though. And they approved of it. It was a great surprise.

I've often wondered, myself, if crab fishermen (or any fishermen, for that matter) ate what they caught, or if they avoided eating it because they grew tired of it after a while.

Maybe, but to be honest I would find it hard to get tired of good lobster. *YUM!*

[TransWarpDrive]

That's good then. :)

It would have been awesome to meet some of the guys. I was thrilled that they had been there, though. And they approved of it. It was a great surprise.

I've often wondered, myself, if crab fishermen (or any fishermen, for that matter) ate what they caught, or if they avoided eating it because they grew tired of it after a while.

Maybe, but to be honest I would find it hard to get tired of good lobster. *YUM!*

I know what you mean. I favor crab meat myself. :thumbup:

[Cloud23465]

The 5th season is scheduled to air beginning April 14th... man.. where does the time go? Just seemed like we just finished the 4th season.

[TransWarpDrive]

The 5th season is scheduled to air beginning April 14th... man.. where does the time go? Just seemed like we just finished the 4th season.
I'm looking forward to watching the new season. I just bought the book the Discovery Channel published: "Deadliest Catch: Desperate Hours," which is a collection of interviews with the skippers and crews of the crab boats featured on the show. It has some interesting stories in it. You can get a copy at Borders for $16.95, or you can order it on-line at the Discovery Channel website. :alumnus:

[Cloud23465]

The 5th season is scheduled to air beginning April 14th... man.. where does the time go? Just seemed like we just finished the 4th season.
I'm looking forward to watching the new season. I just bought the book the Discovery Channel published: "Deadliest Catch: Desperate Hours," which is a collection of interviews with the skippers and crews of the crab boats featured on the show. It has some interesting stories in it. You can get a copy at Borders for $16.95, or you can order it on-line at the Discovery Channel website. :alumnus:

Im not much of a reader... but I love the series so... I may pick it up somewhere.

[Cloud23465]

First season 5 episode to air on the 14th
Title: Everythings on the Line - Summary May contain SPOILER(S)- Skippers Keith and Phil Could be sidlined by life threatening illnesses and all the boats are in debt from summer repairs.

[Cloud23465]

What a season premiere. Phil think's hes going out and then the doctor calls and he's left at the dock. Sig drew the short staw and had to bite the head of the hearing. Keith almost kils himself going under his boat... it looks like a rough season ahead to say the least.

Next episode to air 4/21
Episode name: Red skies in the morning- A storm kidcks up and a mayday goes out for a crew of ll fishermen. Wow.:eek:

[TransWarpDrive]

What a season premiere. Phil thinks he's going out and then the doctor calls and he's left at the dock. Sig drew the short straw and had to bite the head off the herring. Keith almost kills himself going under his boat... it looks like a rough season ahead to say the least.

Next episode to air 4/21...


Yeah, but I was glad to hear that the biopsy on Keith's cheek turned out to not be cancer - he told his wife on the phone that he's quitting chewing tobacco. (I read an article in a magazine once about a high-school football star who chewed tobacco; it gave him cancer of the jaw, and he had to have his whole jawbone surgically removed. Unfortunately, the surgery wasn't enough because the boy died from the cancer which had spread to other parts of his body. The pictures accompanying that article weren't pretty.)
I feel sorry for Phil, though. Being beached like that was quite a blow to him. Crab fishing's been his whole life; he's going to have a dickens of a time adjusting to life on shore while the others take his boat out.

[Cloud23465]

What a season premiere. Phil thinks he's going out and then the doctor calls and he's left at the dock. Sig drew the short straw and had to bite the head off the herring. Keith almost kills himself going under his boat... it looks like a rough season ahead to say the least.

Next episode to air 4/21...


Yeah, but I was glad to hear that the biopsy on Keith's cheek turned out to not be cancer - he told his wife on the phone that he's quitting chewing tobacco. (I read an article in a magazine once about a high-school football star who chewed tobacco; it gave him cancer of the jaw, and he had to have his whole jawbone surgically removed. Unfortunately, the surgery wasn't enough because the boy died from the cancer which had spread to other parts of his body. The pictures accompanying that article weren't pretty.)
I feel sorry for Phil, though. Being beached like that was quite a blow to him. Crab fishing's been his whole life; he's going to have a dickens of a time adjusting to life on shore while the others take his boat out.

True. Good news for Keith and I hope he follows through and quits. As for Phil... i can't even begin to understand the pain that he had to go through missing his frist king crab seaons in 30 years i believe he said. Oh and I love the Northwesterns new "shut up and fish" jackets :laugh:

[Cloud23465]

I used to like the northwesterns Greenhorn Jake... but he's really shown is tail and i guess his true ego this season... i dont like him to much anymore. :thumbdown:

[lunchmeat]

What a season premiere. Phil thinks he's going out and then the doctor calls and he's left at the dock. Sig drew the short straw and had to bite the head off the herring. Keith almost kills himself going under his boat... it looks like a rough season ahead to say the least.

Next episode to air 4/21...


Yeah, but I was glad to hear that the biopsy on Keith's cheek turned out to not be cancer - he told his wife on the phone that he's quitting chewing tobacco. (I read an article in a magazine once about a high-school football star who chewed tobacco; it gave him cancer of the jaw, and he had to have his whole jawbone surgically removed. Unfortunately, the surgery wasn't enough because the boy died from the cancer which had spread to other parts of his body. The pictures accompanying that article weren't pretty.)
I feel sorry for Phil, though. Being beached like that was quite a blow to him. Crab fishing's been his whole life; he's going to have a dickens of a time adjusting to life on shore while the others take his boat out.

I had a cousin (somewhat older than myself, one of those strange family connections) who chewed and ended up having most of his face removed. He ended up looking like a cross between The Phantom Of The Opera and Dr. Phibes, which was sad since he hadn't been a bad looking guy before, my advice would be not to start (I'm told that chewing is about the worst way to use tobacco, apparently there is some relation between the increased length of exposure form holding the juice in your mouth and later problems).

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I used to like the northwesterns Greenhorn Jake... but he's really shown is tail and i guess his true ego this season... i dont like him to much anymore. :thumbdown:
Don't forget, Jake's young; in his early twenties, proud and overconfident at times. He's eager to learn everything he can about crab fishing, and apparently Edgar hasn't been willing to teach him anything about being the engineer on a crab boat (I believe I heard Jake muttering about that in one recent episode). This has made Jake impatient, as only a young man can be. Also, Edgar's needling Jake about being dragged along by an empty pot on the boat's rolling deck, and his humorous suggestion that Jake "put some meat on his bones" also struck a nerve with the kid. Maybe Jake's sensitive about his size, or maybe he's just upset at being teased by someone he looks up to as a role model. Don't forget, the Northwestern's crew had been on deck for one of those days-long marathons of setting and hauling pots; and everyone was tired and cranky at that point. In a sitch like that, it's only natural that someone would get upset about a trivial remark made by a fellow crew member - especially if said crew member meant no harm by it in the first place. IMHO, Jake's just being a hot-headed kid right now. He'll be OK once he cools off and thinks things through.

[jeriddian]

What a season premiere. Phil thinks he's going out and then the doctor calls and he's left at the dock. Sig drew the short straw and had to bite the head off the herring. Keith almost kills himself going under his boat... it looks like a rough season ahead to say the least.

Next episode to air 4/21...


Yeah, but I was glad to hear that the biopsy on Keith's cheek turned out to not be cancer - he told his wife on the phone that he's quitting chewing tobacco. (I read an article in a magazine once about a high-school football star who chewed tobacco; it gave him cancer of the jaw, and he had to have his whole jawbone surgically removed. Unfortunately, the surgery wasn't enough because the boy died from the cancer which had spread to other parts of his body. The pictures accompanying that article weren't pretty.)
I feel sorry for Phil, though. Being beached like that was quite a blow to him. Crab fishing's been his whole life; he's going to have a dickens of a time adjusting to life on shore while the others take his boat out.

I had a cousin (somewhat older than myself, one of those strange family connections) who chewed and ended up having most of his face removed. He ended up looking like a cross between The Phantom Of The Opera and Dr. Phibes, which was sad since he hadn't been a bad looking guy before, my advice would be not to start (I'm told that chewing is about the worst way to use tobacco, apparently there is some relation between the increased length of exposure form holding the juice in your mouth and later problems).

Absolutely. We doctors have warned about the dangers of tobacco, no matter what form is used. The greatly increased incidence of head and neck cancers associated with chewing is well known, and the risk definitely increases with repeated exposure over time.

[Cloud23465]

I used to like the northwesterns Greenhorn Jake... but he's really shown is tail and i guess his true ego this season... i dont like him to much anymore. :thumbdown:
Don't forget, Jake's young; in his early twenties, proud and overconfident at times. He's eager to learn everything he can about crab fishing, and apparently Edgar hasn't been willing to teach him anything about being the engineer on a crab boat (I believe I heard Jake muttering about that in one recent episode). This has made Jake impatient, as only a young man can be. Also, Edgar's needling Jake about being dragged along by an empty pot on the boat's rolling deck, and his humorous suggestion that Jake "put some meat on his bones" also struck a nerve with the kid. Maybe Jake's sensitive about his size, or maybe he's just upset at being teased by someone he looks up to as a role model. Don't forget, the Northwestern's crew had been on deck for one of those days-long marathons of setting and hauling pots; and everyone was tired and cranky at that point. In a sitch like that, it's only natural that someone would get upset about a trivial remark made by a fellow crew member - especially if said crew member meant no harm by it in the first place. IMHO, Jake's just being a hot-headed kid right now. He'll be OK once he cools off and thinks things through.

I dont know. I know I am a few years older then Jakes so, i could be considered part of his generation. I know on a crab boat, and Jakes been with the northwestern... I think this will be his second season... He hasn't earned really any right to do engineering type work. I know there all about respect and earning your place and not giving anything away that hasn't been earned. Edgars been pretty cool with the kid from my POV and schooled him about the advantages they had on that one trip, he took away the table and all and taugh him how good he really had it vs the old days.

[Cloud23465]

Wow! i think all these idiots that believe in "Global warming" to watch deadliest catch. I HAVE NEVER see ice like this on this show... its pretty scary.

[TransWarpDrive]

Yeah, when the ice builds up in the Bering Sea, it really builds.
I don't envy those crab fishermen at times like that, let me tell you....:errr:

[lunchmeat]

Wow! i think all these idiots that believe in "Global warming" to watch deadliest catch. I HAVE NEVER see ice like this on this show... its pretty scary.

Oh, the earth is warming, alright, has been for the last 12 thousand years or so. We can tell by looking at a whole bunch of things, like oxygen isotopes in fossils and rocks, distribution of leaf types in plant fossils, ice cores and a bunch of other things. Whether people are impacting it is another question. Part of the problem is that reliable weather and climate records only go back to 1800s,at best and stuff we can sample from the last couple of hundred years lacks sufficient granularity to be real useful. Most climate data post date WWII, so you are looking at a very small time slice on a really long term event.

If you look at geological and fossil evidence, the earth is actually cooler right now than it normally is.

[TransWarpDrive]

Wow! i think all these idiots that believe in "Global warming" to watch deadliest catch. I HAVE NEVER see ice like this on this show... its pretty scary.

Oh, the earth is warming, alright, has been for the last 12 thousand years or so. We can tell by looking at a whole bunch of things, like oxygen isotopes in fossils and rocks, distribution of leaf types in plant fossils, ice cores and a bunch of other things. Whether people are impacting it is another question. Part of the problem is that reliable weather and climate records only go back to 1800s,at best and stuff we can sample from the last couple of hundred years lacks sufficient granularity to be real useful. Most climate data post date WWII, so you are looking at a very small time slice on a really long term event.

If you look at geological and fossil evidence, the earth is actually cooler right now than it normally is.

Yeah, there have been times when I've experienced cooler-than-normal weather and found myself thinking, "Global warming? What global warming?":huh:

[Cloud23465]

Wow! i think all these idiots that believe in "Global warming" to watch deadliest catch. I HAVE NEVER see ice like this on this show... its pretty scary.

Oh, the earth is warming, alright, has been for the last 12 thousand years or so. We can tell by looking at a whole bunch of things, like oxygen isotopes in fossils and rocks, distribution of leaf types in plant fossils, ice cores and a bunch of other things. Whether people are impacting it is another question. Part of the problem is that reliable weather and climate records only go back to 1800s,at best and stuff we can sample from the last couple of hundred years lacks sufficient granularity to be real useful. Most climate data post date WWII, so you are looking at a very small time slice on a really long term event.

If you look at geological and fossil evidence, the earth is actually cooler right now than it normally is.

Yeah, there have been times when I've experienced cooler-than-normal weather and found myself thinking, "Global warming? What global warming?":huh:

We've had a few of those here... In June... more like march weather with highs in the lower 70's... I think the same thing LOL:laugh:

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I like how, in tonight's episode, Capt. Sig (of the Northwestern) quit smoking - for 3 1/2 hours! :laugh:
- I know I shouldn't really laugh at that; smoking's a filthy, expensive habit that's been proven dangerous to one's health. It's just the irony of it all - Sig's determination to quit just wasn't enough to overcome the stress of his job as captain of a crab-fishing vessel. Well, three and a half hours is a start, anyway. Here's hoping he can do it again for a longer period of time - like permanently....:thumbup:

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Boy, I sure feel sorry for Capt. Phil of the Cornelia Marie. This past season's sure been an expensive one for him, what with all the engine problems he's been having. The additional stress that puts him under can't be doing him any good, either. The last thing Phil needs is to have another blood clot like the one that put him ashore (after almost killing him!) last season.:unsure:

[Cloud23465]

Wow! Im stunned by the next episode preview... Sig saying he need to be off with his family and not in the middle of nowhere? This leads me to believe that it maybe somebody in Matts family? That dudes a piece of work to begin with so... yeah:unsure:

[TransWarpDrive]

Wow! I'm stunned by the next episode preview... Sig saying he needs to be off with his family and not in the middle of nowhere? This leads me to believe that it may be somebody in Matt's family? That dude's a piece of work to begin with so... yeah:unsure:

No, it wasn't Matt; it was the young greenhorn, Jake (the kid who only wanted to earn a Northwestern jacket during a previous season). He got a phone call from home while at sea. I saw a clip of him talking into the receiver saying, "Hello, Mom?" or words to that effect. It seems something happened to someone in Jake's family, and Sig's going to take him back to port so Jake can fly home.

[Cloud23465]

Wow! I'm stunned by the next episode preview... Sig saying he needs to be off with his family and not in the middle of nowhere? This leads me to believe that it may be somebody in Matt's family? That dude's a piece of work to begin with so... yeah:unsure:

No, it wasn't Matt; it was the young greenhorn, Jake (the kid who only wanted to earn a Northwestern jacket during a previous season). He got a phone call from home while at sea. I saw a clip of him talking into the receiver saying, "Hello, Mom?" or words to that effect. It seems something happened to someone in Jake's family, and Sig's going to take him back to port so Jake can fly home.

Well, Jake would of been my next guess... Like i said I used to have respect for this kid till he started popping off at that mouth this season. He thinks he can just leave the northwestern and go somewhere else cause he thinks he's "just that good" but, with an additude like his... not to many captains would want him.

[TransWarpDrive]

Wow! I'm stunned by the next episode preview... Sig saying he needs to be off with his family and not in the middle of nowhere? This leads me to believe that it may be somebody in Matt's family? That dude's a piece of work to begin with so... yeah:unsure:

No, it wasn't Matt; it was the young greenhorn, Jake (the kid who only wanted to earn a Northwestern jacket during a previous season). He got a phone call from home while at sea. I saw a clip of him talking into the receiver saying, "Hello, Mom?" or words to that effect. It seems something happened to someone in Jake's family, and Sig's going to take him back to port so Jake can fly home.

Well, Jake would of been my next guess... Like i said I used to have respect for this kid till he started popping off at that mouth this season. He thinks he can just leave the northwestern and go somewhere else cause he thinks he's "just that good" but, with an additude like his... not to many captains would want him.

Jake's problem is he's eager to learn, but he seems to think he's not being given the chance by Edgar. He was grumping about not being taught the ins and outs of the engine room in one episode (IIRC); evidently Edgar doesn't feel Jake's ready for that yet. IMHO, Jake's just being impatient. That's why he's been popping off at the mouth, if you ask me.

[TransWarpDrive]

I was right; it was Jake who had to go home from opilio crab fishing. His older sister died, and Capt. Sig immediately turned the Northwestern around so they could drop Jake off at St. Paul Island.
She was only 37 years old, too....

[Cloud23465]

Yep, and I tell you I was really stunned by what I saw on the Northwestern. Emotion! The feelings of compassion and caring like I saw last nite really gave me a whole different outlook of the crew of the northwestern. Normally a bunch of tough, rough, mean, and sometimes heartless bunch of crew members... wow.

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Yep, and I tell you I was really stunned by what I saw on the Northwestern. Emotion! The feelings of compassion and caring like I saw last nite really gave me a whole different outlook of the crew of the northwestern. Normally a bunch of tough, rough, mean, and sometimes heartless bunch of crew members... wow.

On the outside, maybe. Deep inside, they have hearts of gold.:thumbup:
I was impressed when Capt. Sig told Jake not to worry if he didn't get back to the boat before the season's end, and that he'd still have a job with them in the future. It speaks volumes about Sig's character; as well as about what Sig thinks about Jake. I mean, he wouldn't hold a job opening like that for a mediocre or poorly-performing crew member. Sig obviously holds Jake in high esteem for him to make that offer. Even Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie had nice things to say about Jake. I watched "After the Catch," that show where the crab boat skippers got together in that pub with that fellow from "Cash Cab." It seems that after the Northwestern dropped Jake off in that skiff for that one boat to pick up, he was subsequently transferred to Phil's boat in order to get to St. Paul Island.
It seems to me that the crab-fishing fleet functions as a sort of extended family at times like these.

[Cloud23465]

On the outside, maybe. Deep inside, they have hearts of gold.:thumbup:
I was impressed when Capt. Sig told Jake not to worry if he didn't get back to the boat before the season's end, and that he'd still have a job with them in the future. It speaks volumes about Sig's character; as well as about what Sig thinks about Jake. I mean, he wouldn't hold a job opening like that for a mediocre or poorly-performing crew member. Sig obviously holds Jake in high esteem for him to make that offer. Even Phil Harris of the Cornelia Marie had nice things to say about Jake. I watched "After the Catch," that show where the crab boat skippers got together in that pub with that fellow from "Cash Cab." It seems that after the Northwestern dropped Jake off in that skiff for that one boat to pick up, he was subsequently transferred to Phil's boat in order to get to St. Paul Island.
It seems to me that the crab-fishing fleet functions as a sort of extended family at times like these.
No arguing that point, But all things considered these guys are VERY! well paid for all the pain they go through. I mean working maybe a month during red king can bring home anywhere from $10,000 to $55,000 i think was the most I can remember per full share deck hand. There are very and i mean VERY few jobs in the world you can pull that off in a month or so time. So I really understand the unsympathetic words at time on these boat.

[Cloud23465]

I can't say i was supprised to see Russ ousted from the Time bandit but, it was pretty sweet that he worked out something on the wizard. I thing the hillstrands made a mistake with scottie after what he pulled that one season leaving the way he did. I think Russ will come out better being on the wizard, Seeing Keith couldn't find a greenhorn that would work out well, he got a veteran instead, and I beleive Russ will come out with bigger paychecks then what he got on the time bandit.

[Cloud23465]

Season 5 is in the books... and what a season it was.... I think this was the best of them yet.

[TransWarpDrive]

Can't argue with you there, Cloud...there certainly was enough drama throughout the season to keep us hooked, what with the Wizard's crew getting bashed by that monster wave; or Jake's sister dying while he was out on the Northwestern; or even Phil's returning to the captain's chair of the Cornelia Marie. Talk about your adventure on the high seas....

[lunchmeat]

Thursday, December 31, 2009


EUGENE, Ore. — Police say a man who appeared in the Discovery Channel show "Deadliest Catch" is wanted for three bank robberies in Oregon and has been arrested in Illinois.

Police in East Peoria, Ill., say they arrested 23-year-old Joshua Tel Warner early Thursday on the Oregon bank robbery warrant after a vehicle he was riding in was pulled over for a routine traffic stop. He was being held on $30,000 bail in the Tazewell County Jail.

Police in Eugene, Ore., say he is the same Josh Warner who appeared as a greenhorn deckhand on the king crab fishing boat Wizard in the "Deadliest Catch" earlier this year. The television reality show depicts the crab fishing industry in the treacherous Bering Sea near Alaska.

The warrant charges Warner with one bank robbery in 2007 and two in 2009


Guess he decided to change careers....

[campy]

the crab fishing industry in the treacherous Bering Sea near Alaska.

The warrant charges Warner with one bank robbery in 2007 and two in 2009.Alaska? Must be the fault of the ex-governor somehow ...

[lunchmeat]

the crab fishing industry in the treacherous Bering Sea near Alaska.

The warrant charges Warner with one bank robbery in 2007 and two in 2009.Alaska? Must be the fault of the ex-governor somehow ...

Well, you do notice that his first robbery was in 2007. It's clearly all President Bush and VP Cheney's fault. Also Halliburton provides oil field services on the North Slope......

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Here are couple more links about this story, including one from the "Deadliest Catch" website itself.....
http://www.examiner.com/x-32679-Allentown-Celebrity-Headlines-Examiner~y2010m1d1-Deadliest-Catch-greenhorn-Joshua-Tel-Warner-arrested-for-3-bank-robberies
http://www.deadliestcatchtv.com/news/deadliest-catch-greenhorn-josh-warner-arrested-for-bank-robberies/
Imagine - robbing a bank, then getting a job that puts your face on national television. Talk about being dumb....:thumbdown:

[lunchmeat]

I haven't watched the show in quite awhile, but the news announced that one of the captains, Phil Harris succumbed to a stroke he suffered earlier this past Tuesday.

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I haven't watched the show in quite awhile, but the news announced that one of the captains, Phil Harris succumbed to a stroke he suffered earlier this past Tuesday.

Yes, Capt. Phil has indeed passed away. Here's a link to the Cornelia Marie's website if you want to read more, or perhaps leave a message for his sons:
The "Cornelia Marie" website (http://www.corneliamarie.com/)

I liked Capt. Phil. He was a unique and colorful character. He will be missed.
May he rest in peace....

[Cloud23465]

Yeah, It's weird... knowing that the Red king crab season opening last nite... knowing that this would be Phils last... it's almost painful to watch. You can hear that his voice is about as rough as it's ever been (that is I've heard on all the seasons i've watch.) I knew of his passing when it happend and I was pretty much shocked when I saw the news. RIP Phil Harris, The show will NOT be the same without you.

On to the season opener... The drama between Keith and Johnathan at the captains meeting was rather... suprising. I think the Jake switch is going to be rather intresting to watch. To me, this seasons opening seemed more epic looking that all the others. Can't wait till next tuesdays episode.:thumbup:

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Yeah, It's weird... knowing that the Red king crab season opening last nite... knowing that this would be Phils last... it's almost painful to watch. You can hear that his voice is about as rough as it's ever been (that is I've heard on all the seasons i've watch.) I knew of his passing when it happend and I was pretty much shocked when I saw the news. RIP Phil Harris, The show will NOT be the same without you.

On to the season opener... The drama between Keith and Johnathan at the captains meeting was rather... surprising. I think the Jake switch is going to be rather intresting to watch. To me, this seasons opening seemed more epic looking than all the others. Can't wait till next tuesdays episode.:thumbup:
Me, neither. I know what you mean about Phil; every time he came on-screen I kept thinking of how little time he had left on this Earth. I came to like Phil. He was a colorful character, to be sure, but he did enjoy crab fishing and he loved his sons. I'm certain he hoped at least one of the boys would some day take the captain's chair of the Cornelia Marie. I'm equally certain he hoped he'd live long enough to see that.
As for switching the two Jakes, yeah, I agree that it should be interesting. The idea behind the switch being that Phil and Sig both wanted to teach those two some humility (since they both were getting a little cocky, in the captains' opinion), we can only watch and see if the transfer has its desired effect. Both guys are essentially going from the position they worked up to on their home boats, to the "bottom of the totem pole" on the other vessels.

[Cloud23465]

IMO I think Jake Harris is way more cockier then Jack Anderson. Jake harris has that i've got more expereince then my older brother problem, My dad's the captain problem.... like when they went out with dads charge card and bought a bunch of stuff... making Phil's blood pressure go up while his boat was broke at the dock. as where Jack Anderson may have his moments but, he seems more intresting in learning and trying. He does seem to forget at time that he's the low man on the ladder.. but, for the most part... Jake anderson seems too be more level headed then Jake harris.

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You have a point there, Cloud. Jake Harris does indeed show a superior attitude towards his brother Josh at times, due to his (Jake's) having been on the boat longer than Josh has. Jake Harris also needs to learn just how to critique a subordinate's performance and get him to to do things right in a diplomatic manner. This is not an easy thing to learn, as I've found out myself down through the years. Jake's criticisms of Josh have consisted of angry lectures, when they haven't devolved into shouting matches with his brother. I suspect one of the reasons Phil agreed to exchange him with Jake Anderson from Northwestern was to get himself a little peace and quiet on his boat!:laugh:
I also suspect that Jake Anderson's problem stems from the fact that he's eager to learn - too eager, perhaps. Considering how he asked Sig and Edgar if they could teach him how to run the boat (as in pilot the vessel from the wheelhouse) before they thought he was ready, I'm not surprised Sig thought Jake was getting cocky. If you'll recall, last season Jake asked Edgar to teach him about working in the boat's engine room. And when Edgar turned him down, Jake sulked around on deck, grumbling about Edgar not giving him a chance to do anything. IMHO, Jake Anderson's trying to do too much, too fast. And Sig's sending him over to Cornelia Marie is Sig's way of teaching Jake some perspective - and patience - when it comes to rising up through the ranks on a fishing vessel.

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So we saw the ep where they swapped Jakes back again.
Risky business, that....:unsure: You would think that at least one of the fishing vessels would have a small boat on board that they could use for such a transfer, instead of having each guy don a survival suit and go in the water attached by a rope to a buoy for the guys on the other ship to snag with their hook and pull them aboard. As it was, Jake Anderson almost got sucked under the stern of the Cornelia Marie, which would have brought him perilously close to the ship's propellers.
IMHO, that was a dumb way to transfer personnel at sea. They'd have been better off going into port and making the switch dockside.

[Cloud23465]

Soooo the truth about Jake harris is that he's a pill popping addict... wow. Busted in his dads state room on the boat... Honestly I wasn't shocked though. The trade between the northwestern did NOTHING for that kid. Speaking of shocking though... what was going on in Jake andersons life was... pretty sad. Father just up and left and know one in the family knows where he's been gone for 3 weeks... wow.

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Soooo the truth about Jake harris is that he's a pill popping addict... wow. Busted in his dads state room on the boat... Honestly I wasn't shocked though. The trade between the northwestern did NOTHING for that kid. Speaking of shocking though... what was going on in Jake andersons life was... pretty sad. Father just up and left and know one in the family knows where he's been gone for 3 weeks... wow.

Yeah, and it gets worse in next week's episode. That covers Capt. Phil's suffering the stroke that eventually killed him. I tell you, it's going to be hard to watch it next Tuesday, knowing what's going to happen....:errr:

[Cloud23465]

Soooo the truth about Jake harris is that he's a pill popping addict... wow. Busted in his dads state room on the boat... Honestly I wasn't shocked though. The trade between the northwestern did NOTHING for that kid. Speaking of shocking though... what was going on in Jake andersons life was... pretty sad. Father just up and left and know one in the family knows where he's been gone for 3 weeks... wow.

Yeah, and it gets worse in next week's episode. That covers Capt. Phil's suffering the stroke that eventually killed him. I tell you, it's going to be hard to watch it next Tuesday, knowing what's going to happen....:errr:

Yeah, no doubt about that... I just hope Jake got a reality check after his father passed.

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Well, they showed the ep about Capt. Phil's stroke tonight. It was indeed hard to watch. At least he got to talk with both his sons and bond a little with them before it felled him. And we saw the rest of the scene in the wheelhouse after he caught Jake swiping his drugs. Since he'd been through the substance-abuse mill himself when he was younger, Phil was able to show some compassion for Jake as he urged the boy to enter rehab after the season's end.
After all, Jake's his son. What else could he do? Once he heard Jake describe his addiction, Phil couldn't possibly throw him out on the street like he wanted to right after catching him stealing the drugs.
Between that, Jake Anderson's (deckhand on the Northwestern) problem with his dad leaving home and disappearing; and the Hillstrand brothers discussing who should captain the Time Bandit after Johnathan retires, this was one episode that really stressed a family theme.

[Cloud23465]

It really was... I had a few tears in my eyes... there's no doubt in my mind that his son, Jake's addiction had alot to do with that stroke. Seeing that stress level he had when he found Jake in his state room... wow. The show will not be the same without phil... the Cornelia marie and the Northwestern are really the 2 boat I like in the whole show. The Wizards ok but, I dont care much for the time bandit anymore after that shove down during the captains meeting at the start of the season.

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Don't forget: Tonight's the 2-hour special episode about Capt. Phil. I know it'll be hard to watch, but I'm going to tune in and pay my respects to the guy.
I'm really sad to see Phil go. I never met the man in person, yet I feel as though I knew him and his sons, thanks to all the media exposure they got on Deadliest Catch.:rip:

[Cloud23465]

Don't forget: Tonight's the 2-hour special episode about Capt. Phil. I know it'll be hard to watch, but I'm going to tune in and pay my respects to the guy.
I'm really sad to see Phil go. I never met the man in person, yet I feel as though I knew him and his sons, thanks to all the media exposure they got on Deadliest Catch.:rip:

I would of loved to meet Phil... Sig is probably the only other captain I'd wanna meet but... man... it's been hard to watch...

[Cloud23465]

Season finale tonite... sounds serious... edgar confronts sig is what i have on my preview info on my dvr... oh boy.:errr:

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Season finale tonite... sounds serious... edgar confronts sig is what i have on my preview info on my dvr... oh boy.:errr:

As it turns out, that "confrontation" was rather low-key. I got the impression that Sig really doesn't believe that Edgar's serious about quitting. IMHO, he's in for a shock when Edgar does leave the boat.

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Season finale tonite... sounds serious... edgar confronts sig is what i have on my preview info on my dvr... oh boy.:errr:

As it turns out, that "confrontation" was rather low-key. I got the impression that Sig really doesn't believe that Edgar's serious about quitting. IMHO, he's in for a shock when Edgar does leave the boat.

Yea, it was rather... mellow. I was expecting a full bown meltdown. I was a different season finale than im used to... but, it was good though. I was shocked to hear some of the huge(er) quotas for some of the boat were like wow.:blink:

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Season finale tonite... sounds serious... edgar confronts sig is what i have on my preview info on my dvr... oh boy.:errr:

As it turns out, that "confrontation" was rather low-key. I got the impression that Sig really doesn't believe that Edgar's serious about quitting. IMHO, he's in for a shock when Edgar does leave the boat.

Yea, it was rather... mellow. I was expecting a full blown meltdown. It was a different season finale than im used to... but, it was good though. I was shocked to hear some of the huge(er) quotas for some of the boat were like wow.:blink:

Oh, yes; the price of seafood - especially crab - is such that a successful fishing boat can make a lot of money in a short time.
You noticed, though, that they never mentioned what the Cornelia Marie's final haul was after the belated finish to their opilio season (late April; ten weeks after the rest of the fleet)? I guess the producers felt it didn't really matter, what with Capt. Phil's passing.

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From http://press.discovery.com
Statement from Captains Sig Hansen and Johnathan & Andy Hillstrand
October 8, 2010


"We're happy we worked everything out with Discovery. A deal's a deal. We're heading up to Dutch Harbor to start filming the new season of DEADLIEST CATCH and hopefully it will be the best one yet."

The Hillstrands added: "Everyone worked really hard on putting together HILLSTRANDED and we're looking forward to wrapping that up. It's something new that we hope people will enjoy."

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From http://press.discovery.com
Statement from Captains Sig Hansen and Johnathan & Andy Hillstrand
October 8, 2010


"We're happy we worked everything out with Discovery. A deal's a deal. We're heading up to Dutch Harbor to start filming the new season of DEADLIEST CATCH and hopefully it will be the best one yet."

The Hillstrands added: "Everyone worked really hard on putting together HILLSTRANDED and we're looking forward to wrapping that up. It's something new that we hope people will enjoy."

So they're coming back to the show after all? That's great!:biggergrin::thumbs: Deadliest Catch wouldn't be the same without them! I'm glad to hear they settled their differences with Discovery Channel. This new show, Hillstranded, sounds interesting as well. I'm curious to see what that'll be like.
Like I said in the What Are You Watching? thread, Time Bandit and Northwestern are two of my favorite boats on Deadliest Catch. It's good to know they'll be returning after all.
Thanks for the update, Cloud!:salute:

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From http://press.discovery.com
Statement from Captains Sig Hansen and Johnathan & Andy Hillstrand
October 8, 2010


"We're happy we worked everything out with Discovery. A deal's a deal. We're heading up to Dutch Harbor to start filming the new season of DEADLIEST CATCH and hopefully it will be the best one yet."

The Hillstrands added: "Everyone worked really hard on putting together HILLSTRANDED and we're looking forward to wrapping that up. It's something new that we hope people will enjoy."

So they're coming back to the show after all? That's great!:biggergrin::thumbs: Deadliest Catch wouldn't be the same without them! I'm glad to hear they settled their differences with Discovery Channel. This new show, Hillstranded, sounds interesting as well. I'm curious to see what that'll be like.
Like I said in the What Are You Watching? thread, Time Bandit and Northwestern are two of my favorite boats on Deadliest Catch. It's good to know they'll be returning after all.
Thanks for the update, Cloud!:salute:

No problem. I think that the Hillstrand bros. realised that it was in there hands to fix the problem in the first place with DC. It was they, after all that didn't finish the deal on the contract and they probably came to there sences once they realised they wouldn't win the suit. Not to metion I am pretty sure DC pays both their boat and the northwestern pretty good money (considering the ratings and such both boats featch being on the show) so im sure they worked it out so everyone would win.

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From http://press.discovery.com
Statement from Captains Sig Hansen and Johnathan & Andy Hillstrand
October 8, 2010


"We're happy we worked everything out with Discovery. A deal's a deal. We're heading up to Dutch Harbor to start filming the new season of DEADLIEST CATCH and hopefully it will be the best one yet."

The Hillstrands added: "Everyone worked really hard on putting together HILLSTRANDED and we're looking forward to wrapping that up. It's something new that we hope people will enjoy."

So they're coming back to the show after all? That's great!:biggergrin::thumbs: Deadliest Catch wouldn't be the same without them! I'm glad to hear they settled their differences with Discovery Channel. This new show, Hillstranded, sounds interesting as well. I'm curious to see what that'll be like.
Like I said in the What Are You Watching? thread, Time Bandit and Northwestern are two of my favorite boats on Deadliest Catch. It's good to know they'll be returning after all.
Thanks for the update, Cloud!:salute:

No problem. I think that the Hillstrand bros. realised that it was in there hands to fix the problem in the first place with DC. It was they, after all that didn't finish the deal on the contract and they probably came to there sences once they realised they wouldn't win the suit. Not to metion I am pretty sure DC pays both their boat and the northwestern pretty good money (considering the ratings and such both boats featch being on the show) so im sure they worked it out so everyone would win.
You're probably right; I've heard of many instances where lawsuits were settled out of court this way after both parties had time to think things over. I'm just glad this story had a happy ending, because the show's fans ultimately win in the long run.
BTW, Sig Hansen has published a book about his years as a fisherman - I believe its title is "North by Northwestern," and I saw it mentioned in an e-mail I got from the Borders bookstore chain (I'm signed up for their Borders Rewards program - that's how I heard about the book). I'm trying to locate a copy for myself.

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From http://press.discovery.com
Statement from Captains Sig Hansen and Johnathan & Andy Hillstrand
October 8, 2010


"We're happy we worked everything out with Discovery. A deal's a deal. We're heading up to Dutch Harbor to start filming the new season of DEADLIEST CATCH and hopefully it will be the best one yet."

The Hillstrands added: "Everyone worked really hard on putting together HILLSTRANDED and we're looking forward to wrapping that up. It's something new that we hope people will enjoy."

So they're coming back to the show after all? That's great!:biggergrin::thumbs: Deadliest Catch wouldn't be the same without them! I'm glad to hear they settled their differences with Discovery Channel. This new show, Hillstranded, sounds interesting as well. I'm curious to see what that'll be like.
Like I said in the What Are You Watching? thread, Time Bandit and Northwestern are two of my favorite boats on Deadliest Catch. It's good to know they'll be returning after all.
Thanks for the update, Cloud!:salute:

No problem. I think that the Hillstrand bros. realised that it was in there hands to fix the problem in the first place with DC. It was they, after all that didn't finish the deal on the contract and they probably came to there sences once they realised they wouldn't win the suit. Not to metion I am pretty sure DC pays both their boat and the northwestern pretty good money (considering the ratings and such both boats featch being on the show) so im sure they worked it out so everyone would win.
You're probably right; I've heard of many instances where lawsuits were settled out of court this way after both parties had time to think things over. I'm just glad this story had a happy ending, because the show's fans ultimately win in the long run.
BTW, Sig Hansen has published a book about his years as a fisherman - I believe its title is "North by Northwestern," and I saw it mentioned in an e-mail I got from the Borders bookstore chain (I'm signed up for their Borders Rewards program - that's how I heard about the book). I'm trying to locate a copy for myself.
I did some reasearching The Cornelia marie and i'm sure this is due in part of phils death but even still... on facebook phils boat page has over 681,000 fans. Northwestern 247,000. Time bandit 50,000. The dealiest catch series clocks in at 1,331,000 fans. Between those 3 boats I believe it like 80%+ of the shows fans. Now i can't help but think or wonder if the northwestern was offered a show before the time bandit was... With josh and jakes personal lifes being pretty rough with the loss of there dad and with jakes drug problem. I would of loved to see sig or edgar on a show... oh well.

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From http://press.discovery.com
Statement from Captains Sig Hansen and Johnathan & Andy Hillstrand
October 8, 2010


"We're happy we worked everything out with Discovery. A deal's a deal. We're heading up to Dutch Harbor to start filming the new season of DEADLIEST CATCH and hopefully it will be the best one yet."

The Hillstrands added: "Everyone worked really hard on putting together HILLSTRANDED and we're looking forward to wrapping that up. It's something new that we hope people will enjoy."

So they're coming back to the show after all? That's great!:biggergrin::thumbs: Deadliest Catch wouldn't be the same without them! I'm glad to hear they settled their differences with Discovery Channel. This new show, Hillstranded, sounds interesting as well. I'm curious to see what that'll be like.
Like I said in the What Are You Watching? thread, Time Bandit and Northwestern are two of my favorite boats on Deadliest Catch. It's good to know they'll be returning after all.
Thanks for the update, Cloud!:salute:

No problem. I think that the Hillstrand bros. realised that it was in there hands to fix the problem in the first place with DC. It was they, after all that didn't finish the deal on the contract and they probably came to there sences once they realised they wouldn't win the suit. Not to metion I am pretty sure DC pays both their boat and the northwestern pretty good money (considering the ratings and such both boats featch being on the show) so im sure they worked it out so everyone would win.
You're probably right; I've heard of many instances where lawsuits were settled out of court this way after both parties had time to think things over. I'm just glad this story had a happy ending, because the show's fans ultimately win in the long run.
BTW, Sig Hansen has published a book about his years as a fisherman - I believe its title is "North by Northwestern," and I saw it mentioned in an e-mail I got from the Borders bookstore chain (I'm signed up for their Borders Rewards program - that's how I heard about the book). I'm trying to locate a copy for myself.
I did some reasearching The Cornelia marie and i'm sure this is due in part of phils death but even still... on facebook phils boat page has over 681,000 fans. Northwestern 247,000. Time bandit 50,000. The dealiest catch series clocks in at 1,331,000 fans. Between those 3 boats I believe it like 80%+ of the shows fans. Now i can't help but think or wonder if the northwestern was offered a show before the time bandit was... With josh and jakes personal lifes being pretty rough with the loss of there dad and with jakes drug problem. I would of loved to see sig or edgar on a show... oh well.

Well, we'll still get to see them on Deadliest Catch, thanks to the Hillstrand brothers settling the lawsuit with Discovery Channel.:)

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Almost time for the boys of deadliest catch to head out for those... snow crabs. I cant wait to see how things turned out this season.

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They ran a "Deadliest Catch" marathon on New Year's Eve - the shows I caught were from this past season, when Capt. Phil suffered a stroke then died. Poignant shows, truly....

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Yeah, it's just not going to be the same without Phil...:dubiety:

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Every time our local TV weatherman shows a satellite photo of Earth, I take a look to see what it's like in the Bering Sea. The crab fishermen are up there now, hunting for opilio crab. And from what I've seen in the photos (at least what I'm guessing it's like based on the cloud cover), those guys are not having an easy time of it....:unsure:

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Hard to believe the 7th? season will be on next week? with a 2 hour season premiere? Wow... where does the time go?:biggergrin:

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Hard to believe the 7th? season will be on next week? with a 2 hour season premiere? Wow... where does the time go?:biggergrin:
Yeah, I know. I'm looking forward to seeing the premiere myself. It'll be interesting to see how Josh and Jake Harris do, crab fishing without Phil in the wheelhouse. This'll be the first season since he died....
I'm also interested in how Sig and Edgar Hansen deal with the fact that Edgar's serious about leaving the Northwestern for good, in order to spend more time with his wife and kids. Hopefully, they'll start grooming someone to fill Edgar's shoes as deck boss.

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DV-R on my computer was set to record the season opener... but, for some reason my tv tunner card was on the fritz. I ended up having to restore my system (again... 3rd time in less then a month) After getting some bad mailware i couldnt seem to get rid of. I did catch about 3/4 of it... Jake harris is NOT off to a good start...even though he is clean. No suprise Jake anderson is aiming for the wheel house already. But, he's a good egg in my book and i wish him the best of luck.

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Maybe it's just me... but, deadliest catch has just lost it's excitement touch to me. I used to countdown the hours to a new episode... now... it's kinda like, so what...I dont wanna say its got to do with Phils passing... but, it's not the same show. The Northwesterns lost it's magic cause of all the over dramatic drama. I dont know.

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Maybe it's just me... but, deadliest catch has just lost it's excitement touch to me. I used to countdown the hours to a new episode... now... it's kinda like, so what...I dont wanna say its got to do with Phils passing... but, it's not the same show. The Northwesterns lost it's magic cause of all the over dramatic drama. I dont know.

Hang in there, Cloud. Those guys on the fishing boats are dealing with life's changes, just like you and I are. Nothing stays the same; not even life in the Bering Sea crab fleet.
I for one intend to keep watching the show - I'm curious to see how certain situations on different boats will turn out. We've got a greenhorn on Capt. Jr.'s boat who's near his breaking point after only a short time on board; Jake Harris is suspected of smoking weed on the Cornelia Marie; and the sitch with Jake Anderson and Edgar Hansen on the Northwestern is shaping up to become a major drama. I'm looking forward to next week's ep.

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Maybe it's just me... but, deadliest catch has just lost it's excitement touch to me. I used to countdown the hours to a new episode... now... it's kinda like, so what...I dont wanna say its got to do with Phils passing... but, it's not the same show. The Northwesterns lost it's magic cause of all the over dramatic drama. I dont know.

Hang in there, Cloud. Those guys on the fishing boats are dealing with life's changes, just like you and I are. Nothing stays the same; not even life in the Bering Sea crab fleet.
I for one intend to keep watching the show - I'm curious to see how certain situations on different boats will turn out. We've got a greenhorn on Capt. Jr.'s boat who's near his breaking point after only a short time on board; Jake Harris is suspected of smoking weed on the Cornelia Marie; and the sitch with Jake Anderson and Edgar Hansen on the Northwestern is shaping up to become a major drama. I'm looking forward to next week's ep.

Yea, I believe Jake Harris went back to drugs and, sad to say, he probably wont quit for good. And I agree with the NW drama is about to kick it up judging by the previews.

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Maybe it's just me... but, deadliest catch has just lost it's excitement touch to me. I used to countdown the hours to a new episode... now... it's kinda like, so what...I dont wanna say its got to do with Phils passing... but, it's not the same show. The Northwesterns lost it's magic cause of all the over dramatic drama. I dont know.

Hang in there, Cloud. Those guys on the fishing boats are dealing with life's changes, just like you and I are. Nothing stays the same; not even life in the Bering Sea crab fleet.
I for one intend to keep watching the show - I'm curious to see how certain situations on different boats will turn out. We've got a greenhorn on Capt. Jr.'s boat who's near his breaking point after only a short time on board; Jake Harris is suspected of smoking weed on the Cornelia Marie; and the sitch with Jake Anderson and Edgar Hansen on the Northwestern is shaping up to become a major drama. I'm looking forward to next week's ep.

Yea, I believe Jake Harris went back to drugs and, sad to say, he probably wont quit for good. And I agree with the NW drama is about to kick it up judging by the previews.

Well, don't forget that Jake and his brother Josh are still dealing with their father's loss as well as coping with the responsibilities that come with being part-owners now of the Cornelia Marie. If you recall from last season, Jake took Phil's death a lot harder than Josh did, and we all saw him retreat into a drugged-out haze to try and dull the pain he was feeling.
Obviously, Jake still needs help in coping with all this stuff. He also still needs counseling on his drug abuse. It's possible for him to quit for good one day, once he realizes what he's doing to himself and takes that lesson to heart. But that day hasn't come yet. But he can quit, if he sets his mind to it - we all have that potential deep within us.

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Jake Probably took it harder seeing as the fact that it wasn't to long after he broke the news to his dad, that his dad feel out with that stroke. That probably was the final straw that put Phil into that. It was bad enough deal with all the stresses Phil had to deal with but, when your son comes up and says hes a drug user. But, Jake has serious issues with being responsible to begin with. Look at just the begining of this season that Jake was AWOL. He's just was to uncaring and cocky. I was hoping his fathers passing would not be invein and he'd clean up and fly right but, he seems to wanna use it as crutch. Josh on the other hand... i think he will go far. it's sad but, just like me and my brother... were just complete opposites in those ways.

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So uh... wow... i watched last nights episode and im pretty much speachless... I think the Cornelia Marie... is done. Jake had something to hide and he proved that when he hauled butt to the airport, then refused to be tested. If he had nothing to hide... he would of took it just to prove them wrong... but, he couldn't back up his words. How sad:dubiety: Phils memory and legacy deserves better then the fate that has been drawn.

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So uh... wow... i watched last nights episode and im pretty much speachless... I think the Cornelia Marie... is done. Jake had something to hide and he proved that when he hauled butt to the airport, then refused to be tested. If he had nothing to hide... he would of took it just to prove them wrong... but, he couldn't back up his words. How sad:dubiety: Phils memory and legacy deserves better then the fate that has been drawn.
It certainly looked that way to me. Yet, captain Derrick Ray couldn't prove conclusively that it was Jake who was smoking the weed on board. And when the police officer searched Jake's cabin, he found nothing incriminating - no drugs, or the paraphernalia for using them. And when he searched Jake at the airport, he still found nothing. So we're left feeling a little doubtful here - "Did he or didn't he?"
And don't forget, also, that the Harris brothers were experiencing frustration with how the crab fishing season had been going up to that point. For all Derrick's claims of being a skilled crabber, they caught very few of the elusive Blue King Crab before deciding to go after the Red Kings, which are more plentiful and thus easier to catch. I think it was Josh who said they were spending $2000.00 a day on food and fuel with little or no results up to that point. Both boys wanted to make the boat succeed, in order to carry on their father's legacy in a manner that would have made Phil proud. And they weren't doing that.
I also think there was a serious clash of personalities between Josh, Jake, and Derrick that no one could have foreseen. And that, IMHO, is what mainly contributed to the early end of the Cornelia Marie's crab fishing season.

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So uh... wow... i watched last nights episode and im pretty much speachless... I think the Cornelia Marie... is done. Jake had something to hide and he proved that when he hauled butt to the airport, then refused to be tested. If he had nothing to hide... he would of took it just to prove them wrong... but, he couldn't back up his words. How sad:dubiety: Phils memory and legacy deserves better then the fate that has been drawn.
It certainly looked that way to me. Yet, captain Derrick Ray couldn't prove conclusively that it was Jake who was smoking the weed on board. And when the police officer searched Jake's cabin, he found nothing incriminating - no drugs, or the paraphernalia for using them. And when he searched Jake at the airport, he still found nothing. So we're left feeling a little doubtful here - "Did he or didn't he?"
And don't forget, also, that the Harris brothers were experiencing frustration with how the crab fishing season had been going up to that point. For all Derrick's claims of being a skilled crabber, they caught very few of the elusive Blue King Crab before deciding to go after the Red Kings, which are more plentiful and thus easier to catch. I think it was Josh who said they were spending $2000.00 a day on food and fuel with little or no results up to that point. Both boys wanted to make the boat succeed, in order to carry on their father's legacy in a manner that would have made Phil proud. And they weren't doing that.
I also think there was a serious clash of personalities between Josh, Jake, and Derrick that no one could have foreseen. And that, IMHO, is what mainly contributed to the early end of the Cornelia Marie's crab fishing season.

I wouldn't of made this gamble for sure on the type of king crab they were fishing... there was and seemed to be NO reward for it what-so-ever. Im sure Phil went though many of hard years... infact i remember that season... not sure which one it was # wise but, He just could NOT find the crab to save his life... That's why it is call crab fishing... a wise man once said that's why it's called fishing and not catching.