General KP Thread 9, The Kimness continues!

[jeriddian]

This is the link to the archived thread: http://www.globaljusticealliance.com/archives/thread10/index.htm (http://www.globaljusticealliance.com/board/../archives/thread10/index.htm)

[TransWarpDrive]

I just finished watching "Mathter and Fervent" on DC, and they got pushy and played a voice-over for the next program over the dialogue in the closing credits....
Oooh, I just hate when they do that...:angry::mad:

[Ultimate Naco Topping]

After downloading Graduation from iTunes, I've watched Ron going MMP at the end a few dozen times. Anyone else do that?

[Cloud23465]

After downloading Graduation from iTunes, I've watched Ron going MMP at the end a few dozen times. Anyone else do that?

I've watched it several times from when I DV-R the episode... I'm watching it and looking to see what I can use to build a great music video... Which is still on my list of things to do...some day.

[GoTeamGirl]

I just finished watching "Mathter and Fervent" on DC, and they got pushy and played a voice-over for the next program over the dialogue in the closing credits....
Oooh, I just hate when they do that...:angry::mad:

I hate that so much!

Graduation's on iTunes? I may have to look into that...

[Cloud23465]

Lunchmeat suggested we take the topic of Shegos leg pouch to a proper location so the other topic would go off topic. But anyways.... I remember Wade mentioning that Shego has a surprisingly good credit score for a villian... and she doesn't carry a purse... Maybe thats where she keeps her credit cards?:hmm:

[lunchmeat]

Could be, she doesn't carry a purse, so it could be a wallet. If she kept as much stuff in the pouch as the ex used to keep in her purse, she'd walk around in circles.

[Cloud23465]

Could be, she doesn't carry a purse, so it could be a wallet. If she kept as much stuff in the pouch as the ex used to keep in her purse, she'd walk around in circles.

Either that or she'd have one leg as big as the other :laugh:. It's so good to know that my moms not the only one that has a purse that feels like it has lead weights and or bricks in it.:rolleyes:

[lunchmeat]

I think it's pretty standard, most women I have known have purses that rival the weighted bags we used to keep on hand to throw classified documents into the sea.
I always figured that there were certain advantages to the ex's system: if some purse snatcher got it, all we would have ahd to do was go to the nearest hospital and look for recent hernia patients.
I've been wondering about Shego's pouch ever since Tick Tick Tick and pretty much expected her to whip something out of it throughout the series, probably something funny or unexpected, like a can of diet soda or something to annoy Drakken.
Kim has, until the change in costume, had the cartridge belt, but after the first couple of episodes never seemed to use it for anything, her backpack becoming the primary container for her gadgets. I think the laser lipstick and one or two other small gadgets came out of there in the beginning. then it seems to be mostly just to hold her pants up.

[Commander Argus]

Noticed a little thing in "Clothes Minded" the other night: James shouts "Rocket are Go!" When Kim flies out of the garage in the space suit. Kinda takes on a new meaning now after "Clean Slate"

[Fireand'chutes77]

...I think the laser lipstick and one or two other small gadgets came out of the belt in the beginning. then it seems to be mostly just to hold her pants up.
Which, considering there's at least an inch or two between her skin and the fabric, it does extraordinarily well. :alumnus: :laugh:

[Ace Ian Combat]

...I think the laser lipstick and one or two other small gadgets came out of the belt in the beginning. then it seems to be mostly just to hold her pants up.
Which, considering there's at least an inch or two between her skin and the fabric, it does extraordinarily well. :alumnus: :laugh:
It makes me wonder how it does that. Actually, I've always wondered that. Maybe it's another of Wade's super belts? Or am I remembering something stated in Clean Slate about Ron's new belt that didn't happen.

[jeriddian]

...I think the laser lipstick and one or two other small gadgets came out of the belt in the beginning. then it seems to be mostly just to hold her pants up.
Which, considering there's at least an inch or two between her skin and the fabric, it does extraordinarily well. :alumnus: :laugh:
It makes me wonder how it does that. Actually, I've always wondered that. Maybe it's another of Wade's super belts? Or am I remembering something stated in Clean Slate about Ron's new belt that didn't happen.

I don't know if Wade's belts would be fachoionable enough for Kim.:P

Nice to have you back AIC. You've been missed.:D

[TheGreenMagic]

Wade inventing an Anti-Gravity belt? Sounds reasonable. Though I think Ron would be just a little tweaked that Kimmie gets all the toys while he... well... I guess Wade knows that there is a time and place for comic relief.

[lunchmeat]

I have a couple of friends who were fashion models at one time or another and there is kind of a glue that they use to keep things from falling down, especially two piece swimsuits and evening gowns. Maybe Kim uses soenthing similar? If so, maybe she ought to lend Ron a jar.

[TransWarpDrive]

I think the cargo pants on Kim's first outfit just naturally hung from her hips at that point. She used gravity to hold them up.

[Fireand'chutes77]

I just noticed this while watching my iTunes version of "Bueno Nacho" -

The Cheese Wheel tour guide, who is voiced by Nicole Sullivan (I think you'll remember the other woman she voices ;)) happens to have green eyes (http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/452/untitled1by1.jpg). :blink:

Coincidence...?

[TransWarpDrive]

I just noticed this while watching my iTunes version of "Bueno Nacho" -

The Cheese Wheel tour guide, who is voiced by Nicole Sullivan (I think you'll remember the other woman she voices ;)) happens to have green eyes (http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/452/untitled1by1.jpg). :blink:

Coincidence...?
It depends. Does Nicole Sullivan have green eyes? If so, they may have given both Shego and the tour guide green eyes as an inside joke.

[jeriddian]

I just noticed this while watching my iTunes version of "Bueno Nacho" -

The Cheese Wheel tour guide, who is voiced by Nicole Sullivan (I think you'll remember the other woman she voices ;)) happens to have green eyes (http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/452/untitled1by1.jpg). :blink:

Coincidence...?
It depends. Does Nicole Sullivan have green eyes? If so, they may have given both Shego and the tour guide green eyes as an inside joke.

Hmmm.. interesting thing you noted here.... I've seen pictures of Nicole Sullivan, but I can't remember her eye color....:hmm:

[Fireand'chutes77]

I just noticed this while watching my iTunes version of "Bueno Nacho" -

The Cheese Wheel tour guide, who is voiced by Nicole Sullivan (I think you'll remember the other woman she voices ;)) happens to have green eyes (http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/452/untitled1by1.jpg). :blink:

Coincidence...?
It depends. Does Nicole Sullivan have green eyes? If so, they may have given both Shego and the tour guide green eyes as an inside joke.

Hmmm.. interesting thing you noted here.... I've seen pictures of Nicole Sullivan, but I can't remember her eye color....:hmm:
To the Internet!! :alumnus: :laugh:

[NinjaNaco]

Not sure whether this should be in this thread or the Finale discussion...

Just remembered in the latest chat with Loter et al. that there was a question about the MHS yearbook displaying the year 2007 when it should be 2006 or something. Checking my iTunes "Graduation, part 1," I saw that it indeed does say 2007.

I then decided to so some calculations.

For my starting point I took the Paisley incident, assuming that, at the time she was 12 (given the reference to "pre-teens") and that it took place in the fall of 1999 (given Duff's mention "back before the bubble burst," and the fact that the dot.com bubble blew in the first half of 2000, and assumption that cheerleader tryouts take place at the beginning of the school year.) I also assumed that Pre-K and Kintergarten begin during the fall and each last for a whole school year (it's been years since I had to deal with said things, so I'm not completely sure.)

Anyway, if you take Shego's "four-year old" reference in ASiT past to be correct concerning Kim and Ron's age when they met, then she would haven been in the 7th grade when trying out for the cheer squad (of which Bonnie seemed captain at the time - wonder why she didn't do as well the second time around), and make Kim and Ron members of the class of 2005, as they would graduate in the spring of that year.

If, however, she was 5 when she started pre-K, than that would put "you're weird, but I like you" in the fall of 1992, make her a 6th grader when she set up her website, and place her graduation in the spring of 2006.

Incidentally, both of these calculations lead to the conclusion that Kim was born sometime in 1987.

So, unless we assume that Kim, Ron, Monique, Bonnie, Zita, etc. repeated senior year once or twice, we have to 1)take the "2007" on the yearbook as a goof or 2)assume that the Tri-City area (or at least Middleton) was stuck in a time loop for 1-2 years or something like that. :)

OK, maybe the fact that I did these calculations indicates my KP geekness is at a truly critical level, but still... ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/mhs2007.jpg
Teh yearbook.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/kp_years.gif
My calculations.

[cpneb]

Not sure whether this should be in this thread or the Finale discussion...

Just remembered in the latest chat with Loter et al. that there was a question about the MHS yearbook displaying the year 2007 when it should be 2006 or something. Checking my iTunes "Graduation, part 1," I saw that it indeed does say 2007.

I then decided to so some calculations.

For my starting point I took the Paisley incident, assuming that, at the time she was 12 (given the reference to "pre-teens") and that it took place in the fall of 1999 (given Duff's mention "back before the bubble burst," and the fact that the dot.com bubble blew in the first half of 2000, and assumption that cheerleader tryouts take place at the beginning of the school year.) I also assumed that Pre-K and Kintergarten begin during the fall and each last for a whole school year (it's been years since I had to deal with said things, so I'm not completely sure.)

Anyway, if you take Shego's "four-year old" reference in ASiT past to be correct concerning Kim and Ron's age when they met, then she would haven been in the 7th grade when trying out for the cheer squad (of which Bonnie seemed captain at the time - wonder why she didn't do as well the second time around), and make Kim and Ron members of the class of 2005, as they would graduate in the spring of that year.

If, however, she was 5 when she started pre-K, than that would put "you're weird, but I like you" in the fall of 1992, make her a 6th grader when she set up her website, and place her graduation in the spring of 2006.

Incidentally, both of these calculations lead to the conclusion that Kim was born sometime in 1987.

So, unless we assume that Kim, Ron, Monique, Bonnie, Zita, etc. repeated senior year once or twice, we have to 1)take the "2007" on the yearbook as a goof or 2)assume that the Tri-City area (or at least Middleton) was stuck in a time loop for 1-2 years or something like that. :)

OK, maybe the fact that I did these calculations indicates my KP geekness is at a truly critical level, but still... ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/mhs2007.jpg
Teh yearbook.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/kp_years.gif
My calculations.

NinjaNaco:
What some would call 'geekiness,' others call 'attention to detail' and 'ensuring continuity.'

I'm with your first timeline and have a similar picture, including times and events for Joss Possible and Wade Load as well as Jim and Tim Possible, running for my JadeKimVerse.

Great analysis: Wade would be proud.

...and, btw, love your signature montage!

[BluetoothThePirate]

Middleton was stuck in a time loop for 1-2 years. That's what happens when production is disrupted, a side effect of either the Borroughs drive or the Law of Narrative Causality.:alumnus:

Of course, it's not as bad as, say, Marvel Comics, where it's always the correct year, but only about 6 years have gone by since 1963. That'll give you a headache.

[campy]

Middleton was stuck in a time loop for 1-2 years. That's what happens when production is disrupted, a side effect of either the Borroughs drive or the Law of Narrative Causality.:alumnus:

Of course, it's not as bad as, say, Marvel Comics, where it's always the correct year, but only about 6 years have gone by since 1963. That'll give you a headache.How about James Bond? The guy hasn't aged from the end of WWII to this year.

[lunchmeat]

Bond is just like Richard (auto censor strikes again) Clark and Casey Kassum, they pull them out of the liquid nitrogen whenever they need them for an awards show or new years eve special.....

[Fireand'chutes77]

Warning: Warning: Critical geek levels reached.... :rolleyes: :laugh:



So, unless we assume that Kim, Ron, Monique, Bonnie, Zita, etc. repeated senior year once or twice, we have to 1)take the "2007" on the yearbook as a goof...
I believe TPTB explained the yearbooks saying "2007" with a shrug and "...'Cause it's 2007 now." :rolleyes:


Anyway, if you take Shego's "four-year old" reference in ASiT past to be correct concerning Kim and Ron's age when they met...
Yeah, I'm sure Shego would be an excellent judge of the ages of "the little whiners." :P

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The spreadsheet is might be a *little* excessive, but it certainly looks nice. :alumnus:

Love the new signature, BTW! :D

[jeriddian]

Not sure whether this should be in this thread or the Finale discussion...

Just remembered in the latest chat with Loter et al. that there was a question about the MHS yearbook displaying the year 2007 when it should be 2006 or something. Checking my iTunes "Graduation, part 1," I saw that it indeed does say 2007.

I then decided to so some calculations.

For my starting point I took the Paisley incident, assuming that, at the time she was 12 (given the reference to "pre-teens") and that it took place in the fall of 1999 (given Duff's mention "back before the bubble burst," and the fact that the dot.com bubble blew in the first half of 2000, and assumption that cheerleader tryouts take place at the beginning of the school year.) I also assumed that Pre-K and Kintergarten begin during the fall and each last for a whole school year (it's been years since I had to deal with said things, so I'm not completely sure.)

Anyway, if you take Shego's "four-year old" reference in ASiT past to be correct concerning Kim and Ron's age when they met, then she would haven been in the 7th grade when trying out for the cheer squad (of which Bonnie seemed captain at the time - wonder why she didn't do as well the second time around), and make Kim and Ron members of the class of 2005, as they would graduate in the spring of that year.

If, however, she was 5 when she started pre-K, than that would put "you're weird, but I like you" in the fall of 1992, make her a 6th grader when she set up her website, and place her graduation in the spring of 2006.

Incidentally, both of these calculations lead to the conclusion that Kim was born sometime in 1987.

So, unless we assume that Kim, Ron, Monique, Bonnie, Zita, etc. repeated senior year once or twice, we have to 1)take the "2007" on the yearbook as a goof or 2)assume that the Tri-City area (or at least Middleton) was stuck in a time loop for 1-2 years or something like that. :)

OK, maybe the fact that I did these calculations indicates my KP geekness is at a truly critical level, but still... ;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/mhs2007.jpg
Teh yearbook.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/kp_years.gif
My calculations.

Good job on that, NinjaNaco. I have a different timeline however. I place graduation in 2007, and Kim being born in Feruary 1989. I make it out that they were four years old when they met in Pre-K. No, there's no canon that says that, just my take. But it's important in order for my Fan Fics to work. You just have to read my one shot "The Prophecy" to see why.

[NinjaNaco]

...and, btw, love your signature montage!
Thanks. :)

[TransWarpDrive]

Bond is just like Richard (auto censor strikes again) Clark and Casey Kassum, they pull them out of the liquid nitrogen whenever they need them for an awards show or new years eve special.....
So type it D-i-c-k Clark - it'll get past the AutoCensor that way. :P
BTW, Casey's last name is spelled "Kasem."
Just thought I'd point that out... :alumnus:

@NinjaNaco & jeriddian:
Re: Kim's year of birth - Both your theories sound plausible. I did some calculations of my own a while back, and came up with 1987 as the most likely year of birth for both Kim and Ron. But putting her birth year in the 1987-89 range works, if you wish to take the "2007" on the cover of the MHS yearbook as canon.
Unfortunately, this seems to be one of those things the KP Krew didn't establish beforehand, so we'll just have to take their answer: "...'Cause it's 2007 now" at face value.

[lunchmeat]

Shows how often I watch that stuff, I'm more of a Dr. Demento type, myself. The only reason I even remember Clark is that one of my older cousins, in a desperate and unltimately doomed attempt to be cool, used to watch American Bandstand and listen to American Top 40 religiously.
#1 kid insisted on watching the New Year shpw one year and I think both of them appeared. My initial response was they're still alive?

[jeriddian]

Shows how often I watch that stuff, I'm more of a Dr. Demento type, myself. The only reason I even remember Clark is that one of my older cousins, in a desperate and unltimately doomed attempt to be cool, used to watch American Bandstand and listen to American Top 40 religiously.
#1 kid insisted on watching the New Year shpw one year and I think both of them appeared. My initial response was they're still alive?

Amazingly, Clark is like 77 years old now. He recently survived a bad bout of pneumonia for which he had to be hospitalized. Haven't heard much from him since. I'll bet he's at home recuperating as best he can, but I don't think he's doing all that well.

[NinjaNaco]

Unfortunately, this seems to be one of those things the KP Krew didn't establish beforehand, so we'll just have to take their answer: "...'Cause it's 2007 now" at face value.
I disagree with that ... I'd take the fact that they basically shrugged it off/didn't give it much thought as "it's a minor continuity goof we didn't even think about."

Besides, placing graduation in 2007 puts the whole thing out of whack (with the reference to the 200 bubble burst and all) unless you do the time loop thingy.

[lunchmeat]

Based on that last chat, it sounds as if, since the order in which episodes would be returned and then shown was so wildly unpredicatable that the writers pretty much gave up on more than a real generalized continuity. The episodes are pretty much stand alone, pretty frustrating for many of us, who would have liked each episode to have been like a chapter in a novel, but understandable under the circumstances.

I imagine part of the "no comment" was a result of "oh yeah, if they graduate in 2007 and the show started with them being sophomores in 2002, then it took them 6 years to finish high school" so they would have to either say "well, ooops" or cope with all of Middleton being composed of Brick Flaggs. The other aspect of "pass" is probably a combination of having heard the same dozen or so questions over and over, to the point of really being tired of them, as well as stuff they just never needed to consider for a given episode.

[TransWarpDrive]

Shows how often I watch that stuff, I'm more of a Dr. Demento type, myself. The only reason I even remember Clark is that one of my older cousins, in a desperate and unltimately doomed attempt to be cool, used to watch American Bandstand and listen to American Top 40 religiously.
#1 kid insisted on watching the New Year shpw one year and I think both of them appeared. My initial response was they're still alive?

Amazingly, Clark is like 77 years old now. He recently survived a bad bout of pneumonia for which he had to be hospitalized. Haven't heard much from him since. I'll bet he's at home recuperating as best he can, but I don't think he's doing all that well.

And don't forget about that stroke he suffered a couple of years ago - he's still recovering from that, as well.

[NinjaNaco]

Was making the Possibles in The Sims 2 yesterday (again), and while I think I've gotten KP's immediate clan done well, I'm having trouble with Joss - it seems hard to get her hair and face to have that essential Jossness.

Well, here's my latest attempt at Simsing Kim's Montana cousin - how well do you think I did?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/sims2joss.jpg

[jeriddian]

Was making the Possibles in The Sims 2 yesterday (again), and while I think I've gotten KP's immediate clan done well, I'm having trouble with Joss - it seems hard to get her hair and face to have that essential Jossness.

Well, here's my latest attempt at Simsing Kim's Montana cousin - how well do you think I did?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/sims2joss.jpg

Not bad! I like it. I think the nebster might take a shine to it too. I would make her hair a little longer though.:D

[NinjaNaco]

Had a weird, fanficcish plot bunny thought occur at work today - what if Kim was a descendant of feared Nazi commando Otto Skorzeny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Skorzeny)?

Y'know, Nana seems to have some involvement with special ops, she and Otto run into each other during a special mission or something, and the next thing you know...

[jeriddian]

Sounds like something worthwhile to work up. Maybe we'll see it in print later?

[Fireand'chutes77]

Had a weird, fanficcish plot bunny thought occur at work today - what if Kim was a descendant of feared Nazi commando Otto Skorzeny (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otto_Skorzeny)?

Y'know, Nana seems to have some involvement with special ops, she and Otto run into each other during a special mission or something, and the next thing you know...
:huh:

But Otto's a... Nazi. And a damn good one (or is it bad one?) at that... Nana + Nazi... simply... simply refuses to compute...

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[cpneb]

Was making the Possibles in The Sims 2 yesterday (again), and while I think I've gotten KP's immediate clan done well, I'm having trouble with Joss - it seems hard to get her hair and face to have that essential Jossness.

Well, here's my latest attempt at Simsing Kim's Montana cousin - how well do you think I did?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/sims2joss.jpg

Not bad! I like it. I think the nebster might take a shine to it too. I would make her hair a little longer though.:DA

Gee, Jer, why would you think that :biggergrin:?

Sorry for the delay in response, Jeriddian: issues with computer and silly real life issues taking time away from boards....

I agree: make her hair longer, fuller (this looks stringy), and her eyes are ice-blue ('Showdown' has terrible continuity within the epa on Joss' eye color).

Id be interested to see the results of her and the rest of the SimPossibles....

[Fireand'chutes77]

I know that some people have a collection of The Last Son of 84's/The Green Magic's music videos he made from the ARA days. I'm trying to recall some of the songs he used. Anybody have them? TGM?

[Fireand'chutes77]

Sorry for the DP.

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Near the end of "Cap'n Drakken," there's always a scene that makes me wince (It's almost disturbingly light-hearted); it's Ron getting stuck in the town's gibbet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbet#Display). Specifically, it's Barkin Sr's comment that pirates wore it for their hanging. Incorrect. That device would be used after the execution, to purposely keep the dead, decaying, festering body in one piece for weeks afterward. A gibbet would be placed along major highways to serve as a warning and hopefully deter criminals from doing their illegal deeds.

We don't want the little kiddies to be misinformed, do we? ;)

[NinjaNaco]

Well, I was persuing some of The Sims 2 files, and I still can't find a decent match for Joss' hair.

Sure, there are lots of brown-haired girls' hairstyles that part at one side, but they almost all of them cover the forehead, while Joss' doesn't.

I dunno. Arguably, one of the built-in haircuts is the best one for Joss, but it parts down the middle, instead of at the side.

I've requested the hair done on the TSR forums, but no response.

In any case, I can say that it's hard to get an accurate representation of Stephen Silver's designs in The Sims 2 world. Not that I'll quit trying, though...

[cpneb]

Well, I was persuing some of The Sims 2 files, and I still can't find a decent match for Joss' hair.

Sure, there are lots of brown-haired girls' hairstyles that part at one side, but they almost all of them cover the forehead, while Joss' doesn't.

I dunno. Arguably, one of the built-in haircuts is the best one for Joss, but it parts down the middle, instead of at the side.

I've requested the hair done on the TSR forums, but no response.

In any case, I can say that it's hard to get an accurate representation of Stephen Silver's designs in The Sims 2 world. Not that I'll quit trying, though...

I appreciate the work, NinjaNaco. Look at it as Joss, older (15-17), and the hair style change would work. The longer, fuller would be more important, IMHO.

[jeriddian]

Sorry for the DP.

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Near the end of "Cap'n Drakken," there's always a scene that makes me wince (It's almost disturbingly light-hearted); it's Ron getting stuck in the town's gibbet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibbet#Display). Specifically, it's Barkin Sr's comment that pirates wore it for their hanging. Incorrect. That device would be used after the execution, to purposely keep the dead, decaying, festering body in one piece for weeks afterward. A gibbet would be placed along major highways to serve as a warning and hopefully deter criminals from doing their illegal deeds.

We don't want the little kiddies to be misinformed, do we? ;)

Quite true. The most famous example of this was probably the execution of Captain Kidd and the hanging of his body for several weeks afterwards in a gibbet. Of course, we don't want the fans to be misinformed....:rolleyes:..... at the same time I doubt the writers wanted to be that graphic about the gibbet on a kid's cartoon show either....:P:innocent:

[NinjaNaco]

Just an update of sorts on my efforts to make KP Sims:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/josswadeyori_sims2.jpg
Even though I've tried to find a hairstyle to exactly match Joss (which is weird, given its simple form - then again, the Sims designers like to make more elaborate hairstyles) on of the default hairdos seems the closest. With Wade, there's pretty much a good hairstyle for him from teen years on up, but it's not available for kids. Yori - I think I've found some hairstyles that might be close to hers - unfortunately, they all seem to require subscribing to download. :ohwell:

Been watching a bit of the Halloween KP marathon on TD - they're showing both "Sink or Swim" and "Return to Wannaweep" today. The igh with the low - never knew they'd be so close...

[jeriddian]

Nine Job there NinjaNaco. It would have been nice if the sims had given you a few more choices on the hairstyles. It looks like you've portrayed Wade as a teenager, about 5 years into the future, but still looks good. Looks like he outgrew his chubby years.:P:laugh:

[cpneb]

Just an update of sorts on my efforts to make KP Sims:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/josswadeyori_sims2.jpg
Even though I've tried to find a hairstyle to exactly match Joss (which is weird, given its simple form - then again, the Sims designers like to make more elaborate hairstyles) on of the default hairdos seems the closest. With Wade, there's pretty much a good hairstyle for him from teen years on up, but it's not available for kids. Yori - I think I've found some hairstyles that might be close to hers - unfortunately, they all seem to require subscribing to download. :ohwell:

Been watching a bit of the Halloween KP marathon on TD - they're showing both "Sink or Swim" and "Return to Wannaweep" today. The igh with the low - never knew they'd be so close...

I like both your Joss and Wade: the Wade is much as I picture him in my stories as he un-grows in size and grows in height, while I'd have Joss' hair a bit redder (even though this is 'Possible). You've got both of their eyes captured quite well.

Wade's ungrowing in size: falling in love with Joss will do that to him...ah, those Possible women....

[Fireand'chutes77]

Much to my surprise and excitement, I discovered that for Spirit Week next week, Thursday is "Superhero/Disney Day."

Time to dust off the ol' Ron Stoppable costume! :D

[cpneb]

Much to my surprise and excitement, I discovered that for Spirit Week next week, Thursday is "Superhero/Disney Day."

Time to dust off the ol' Ron Stoppable costume! :D

Do you have a Kim in mind?

[Fireand'chutes77]

Rewatching the opener of "Larry's Birthday," I had a thought:

Could the cougar's (or puma's :P) name, Sassie, possibly be a reference to "Homeward Bound"?

(Which, incidentally, also featured a cougar)

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EDIT: More thoughts about "LB:"

- Not the highest rewatchable value (the portrayal of the gamers and Ron are at times wince-inducing), but Dementor was in top form.

- Awesome animation, particularly near the end. The acid tank's bubbles and glow turned out very well; I have to wonder if CGI was involved. And the fluidity, kinetics, and crispness (http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/8138/swingaq5.jpg) of Kim's grappler-swing was jaw dropping. :D

- The end fight rocked... Revenge of the nerds! (http://caps.kpfanworld.com/images/larrys_birthday/1057.jpg) :laugh: :blink:

- Dementor = bad***. :thumbup: :D :cool: I was worried about where he was going after "Ill Suited" ("It's a HOUSE COAT!!!!"), but he recovered nicely for his final show. I'd always thought it would be Dementor who'd resort to the semi-realistic weaponry. I found it grimly comical that he shut the door behind him as he fled from his refracted blast... As though a flimsy little door is going to do him any good. Kinda reminds me of Donald Gennaro flinging the bathroom stall door shut as he tries to flee from the T.rex. :blink: :laugh:

[Fireand'chutes77]

Much to my surprise and excitement, I discovered that for Spirit Week next week, Thursday is "Superhero/Disney Day."

Time to dust off the ol' Ron Stoppable costume! :D

Do you have a Kim in mind?
I didn't see a Kim today, unfortunately. My Ron Stoppable costume went over very well, though. I really like it. It was a little disconcerting, though, to pass a plate window or mirror and see Ron Stoppable gazing back at me...

I was pleasantly surprised by how many people reacted favorably when I told them whom I was portraying or they guessed it correctly. 90% of the time, the next question after "Who are you supposed to be?" was "Where's Rufus?" :laugh: :D (My answer: Had to stay home with a stomach ache after eating too much cheese. :P)

I have to wonder what was going on in people's heads or what mental images they were flashing before them between the time I said "Ron Stoppable" and they said "Oh!" What are they visualizing? What is their interpretation?

Another interesting aspect was that it brought out sides of people that I never would have anticipated. One of the girls at the bus stop (significantly attractive, but abrasive and already connected), whom I would not have expected to watch a show like Kim Possible, looked me up and down for a few moments before blurting, "You're Ron Stoppable, aren't you!"

I laughed, said yes, and received the obligatory Rufus question.

"I remember that show," the girl continued, "I used to watch the Disney Channel every day back in middle school..."


The things you learn...

[Ace Ian Combat]

Much to my surprise and excitement, I discovered that for Spirit Week next week, Thursday is "Superhero/Disney Day."

Time to dust off the ol' Ron Stoppable costume! :D

Do you have a Kim in mind?
I didn't see a Kim today, unfortunately. My Ron Stoppable costume went over very well, though. I really like it. It was a little disconcerting, though, to pass a plate window or mirror and see Ron Stoppable gazing back at me...

I was pleasantly surprised by how many people reacted favorably when I told them whom I was portraying or they guessed it correctly. 90% of the time, the next question after "Who are you supposed to be?" was "Where's Rufus?" :laugh: :D (My answer: Had to stay home with a stomach ache after eating too much cheese. :P)

I have to wonder what was going on in people's heads or what mental images they were flashing before them between the time I said "Ron Stoppable" and they said "Oh!" What are they visualizing? What is their interpretation?

Another interesting aspect was that it brought out sides of people that I never would have anticipated. One of the girls at the bus stop (significantly attractive, but abrasive and already connected), whom I would not have expected to watch a show like Kim Possible, looked me up and down for a few moments before blurting, "You're Ron Stoppable, aren't you!"

I laughed, said yes, and received the obligatory Rufus question.

"I remember that show," the girl continued, "I used to watch the Disney Channel every day back in middle school..."


The things you learn...

Heh, I went as Kim last year to our Spirit Week day, and when I've taken my cousins trick or treating the last two years, I go as Kim. Unfortunately my littlest cousin is the only one who knew who I was. :(

[cpneb]

Much to my surprise and excitement, I discovered that for Spirit Week next week, Thursday is "Superhero/Disney Day."

Time to dust off the ol' Ron Stoppable costume! :D

Do you have a Kim in mind?
I didn't see a Kim today, unfortunately. My Ron Stoppable costume went over very well, though. I really like it. It was a little disconcerting, though, to pass a plate window or mirror and see Ron Stoppable gazing back at me...

I was pleasantly surprised by how many people reacted favorably when I told them whom I was portraying or they guessed it correctly. 90% of the time, the next question after "Who are you supposed to be?" was "Where's Rufus?" :laugh: :D (My answer: Had to stay home with a stomach ache after eating too much cheese. :P)

I have to wonder what was going on in people's heads or what mental images they were flashing before them between the time I said "Ron Stoppable" and they said "Oh!" What are they visualizing? What is their interpretation?

Another interesting aspect was that it brought out sides of people that I never would have anticipated. One of the girls at the bus stop (significantly attractive, but abrasive and already connected), whom I would not have expected to watch a show like Kim Possible, looked me up and down for a few moments before blurting, "You're Ron Stoppable, aren't you!"

I laughed, said yes, and received the obligatory Rufus question.

"I remember that show," the girl continued, "I used to watch the Disney Channel every day back in middle school..."


The things you learn...

Heh, I went as Kim last year to our Spirit Week day, and when I've taken my cousins trick or treating the last two years, I go as Kim. Unfortunately my littlest cousin is the only one who knew who I was. :(


All right, fire, ace, the challenge: a picture of Kim and Ron!

[Ace Ian Combat]

All right, fire, ace, the challenge: a picture of Kim and Ron!

I assume you mean a picture of us (separately) as Kim and Ron?

[campy]

I've started transcribing "Odds Man In," and I don't think anyone's ever mentioned a 'possible' pop culture reference early on. At the banquet, when Ron rephrases his dad's explanation of actuaries, Mr. S. replies, "I think he's got it!" This could be a reference to the song "The Rain in Spain" from what has been called "the perfect musical," Lerner & Loewe's 1956 Broadway hit My Fair Lady.

Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: I think she's got it! I think she's got it!
Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: By George she's got it! By George she's got it!

[Ace Ian Combat]

I've started transcribing "Odds Man In," and I don't think anyone's ever mentioned a 'possible' pop culture reference early on. At the banquet, when Ron rephrases his dad's explanation of actuaries, Mr. S. replies, "I think he's got it!" This could be a reference to the song "The Rain in Spain" from what has been called "the perfect musical," Lerner & Loewe's 1956 Broadway hit My Fair Lady.

Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: I think she's got it! I think she's got it!
Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: By George she's got it! By George she's got it!

Nice catch if it is a reference. It's a bit humorous too.:thumbup::biggergrin:

[TransWarpDrive]

I've started transcribing "Odds Man In," and I don't think anyone's ever mentioned a 'possible' pop culture reference early on. At the banquet, when Ron rephrases his dad's explanation of actuaries, Mr. S. replies, "I think he's got it!" This could be a reference to the song "The Rain in Spain" from what has been called "the perfect musical," Lerner & Loewe's 1956 Broadway hit My Fair Lady.

Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: I think she's got it! I think she's got it!
Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: By George she's got it! By George she's got it!

Nice catch if it is a reference. It's a bit humorous too.:thumbup::biggergrin:

It could very well be a reference to that musical; I never realized it myself until it was just pointed out to me.
- Although a lot of people use the phrase, "I think he/she's got it!" when someone they're explaining something to indicates that they understand it, without referring to (or even knowing about) the scene from My Fair Lady.

[campy]

I've started transcribing "Odds Man In," and I don't think anyone's ever mentioned a 'possible' pop culture reference early on. At the banquet, when Ron rephrases his dad's explanation of actuaries, Mr. S. replies, "I think he's got it!" This could be a reference to the song "The Rain in Spain" from what has been called "the perfect musical," Lerner & Loewe's 1956 Broadway hit My Fair Lady.

Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: I think she's got it! I think she's got it!
Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: By George she's got it! By George she's got it!

Nice catch if it is a reference. It's a bit humorous too.:thumbup::biggergrin:

It could very well be a reference to that musical; I never realized it myself until it was just pointed out to me.
- Although a lot of people use the phrase, "I think he/she's got it!" when someone they're explaining something to indicates that they understand it, without referring to (or even knowing about) the scene from My Fair Lady.Maybe it's just me, but the way Elliott Gould delivers the line really suggests to me that it's a reference.

[cpneb]

I've started transcribing "Odds Man In," and I don't think anyone's ever mentioned a 'possible' pop culture reference early on. At the banquet, when Ron rephrases his dad's explanation of actuaries, Mr. S. replies, "I think he's got it!" This could be a reference to the song "The Rain in Spain" from what has been called "the perfect musical," Lerner & Loewe's 1956 Broadway hit My Fair Lady.

Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: I think she's got it! I think she's got it!
Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: By George she's got it! By George she's got it!

Good catch, camp'ster: that's exactly what I thought when I first heard the line delivered!

And, Jessica: leave her alone! She's doing quite well, please and thank you! :biggergrin:

[campy]

Good catch, camp'ster: that's exactly what I thought when I first heard the line delivered!Thanks for the backup, 'neb-man! Now, we should put our heads together and comb through four season's worth of transcripts until we dig up a Bernstein's Mass reference! There's gotta be one somewhere. :biggergrin:

[TransWarpDrive]

I've started transcribing "Odds Man In," and I don't think anyone's ever mentioned a 'possible' pop culture reference early on. At the banquet, when Ron rephrases his dad's explanation of actuaries, Mr. S. replies, "I think he's got it!" This could be a reference to the song "The Rain in Spain" from what has been called "the perfect musical," Lerner & Loewe's 1956 Broadway hit My Fair Lady.

Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: I think she's got it! I think she's got it!
Eliza: The rain in Spain stays mainly in the plain!
Higgins: By George she's got it! By George she's got it!

Nice catch if it is a reference. It's a bit humorous too.:thumbup::biggergrin:

It could very well be a reference to that musical; I never realized it myself until it was just pointed out to me.
- Although a lot of people use the phrase, "I think he/she's got it!" when someone they're explaining something to indicates that they understand it, without referring to (or even knowing about) the scene from My Fair Lady.Maybe it's just me, but the way Elliott Gould delivers the line really suggests to me that it's a reference.

You could be right...
Was Mr. Gould ever in a stage production of My Fair Lady?

[campy]

Maybe it's just me, but the way Elliott Gould delivers the line really suggests to me that it's a reference.

You could be right...
Was Mr. Gould ever in a stage production of My Fair Lady?I did a little searching before I posted, but couldn't find a mention of one.

[cpneb]

Good catch, camp'ster: that's exactly what I thought when I first heard the line delivered!Thanks for the backup, 'neb-man! Now, we should put our heads together and comb through four season's worth of transcripts until we dig up a Bernstein's Mass reference! There's gotta be one somewhere. :biggergrin:


It would only be appropriate: the Catholic Mass written for the opening of the JFK Center for the Performing Arts by a Jewish composer/conductor: somehow, I think that Ron is laughing about the 'cornucopia of disturbing and disparate and disconnected events....'

Adrena Lynn's favorite word, used in "I Don't Know:"

"I don't know why I'm so freaky-minded, I just keep on kind of enjoying it!"

bit of a stretch....

[campy]

Good catch, camp'ster: that's exactly what I thought when I first heard the line delivered!Thanks for the backup, 'neb-man! Now, we should put our heads together and comb through four season's worth of transcripts until we dig up a Bernstein's Mass reference! There's gotta be one somewhere. :biggergrin:


It would only be appropriate: the Catholic Mass written for the opening of the JFK Center for the Performing Arts by a Jewish composer/conductor: somehow, I think that Ron is laughing about the 'cornucopia of disturbing and disparate and disconnected events....'

Adrena Lynn's favorite word, used in "I Don't Know:"

"I don't know why I'm so freaky-minded, I just keep on kind of enjoying it!"

bit of a stretch....I think he's got it! :D

[jeriddian]

Maybe it's just me, but the way Elliott Gould delivers the line really suggests to me that it's a reference.

You could be right...
Was Mr. Gould ever in a stage production of My Fair Lady?I did a little searching before I posted, but couldn't find a mention of one.

I believe he never was. But that line is quoted so often in so many different productions that I'm not surprised it was used.

[TransWarpDrive]

I was very upset tonight when I discovered that those rats at DC had pre-empted the late-night repeat of "Kim Possible" so they could show that #%8$@!! "Harry Potter" movie two times, back-to-back! :angry: And I was home from work today; I could have watched today's ep when it ran at half-past noon, local time. But I didn't, so I went into my DVD collection and got a couple of my KP discs out. I ended up watching "Gorilla Fist," then "Showdown at the Crooked D" on my computer's DVD player.
Then I fell asleep in front of the computer, and had a weird dream where I drove to the parking lot of a local arena (where I'd gone to see many concerts before) in order to pick up Kim's cousin Joss, who'd gone there to see a concert. And it was so vivid, too...:blink:

[jeriddian]

Yeah, just like Disney to consider Harry Potter is more important than KP.:mad:

As to the dream, I'm half tempted to ask what you've been........uh.........partaking of........?:P:laugh:j/k

[cpneb]

I was very upset tonight when I discovered that those rats at DC had pre-empted the late-night repeat of "Kim Possible" so they could show that #%8$@!! "Harry Potter" movie two times, back-to-back! :angry: And I was home from work today; I could have watched today's ep when it ran at half-past noon, local time. But I didn't, so I went into my DVD collection and got a couple of my KP discs out. I ended up watching "Gorilla Fist," then "Showdown at the Crooked D" on my computer's DVD player.
Then I fell asleep in front of the computer, and had a weird dream where I drove to the parking lot of a local arena (where I'd gone to see many concerts before) in order to pick up Kim's cousin Joss, who'd gone there to see a concert. And it was so vivid, too...:blink:

So, Joss, eh? :biggergrin: how old were you, and how old was she in that dream? :laugh:

'nuttin' but love, TWD, nuttin' but love....:innocent:

[NinjaNaco]

It would only be appropriate: the Catholic Mass written for the opening of the JFK Center for the Performing Arts by a Jewish composer/conductor: somehow, I think that Ron is laughing about the 'cornucopia of disturbing and disparate and disconnected events....'

When I read that, I immediately thought of Ron messing up the Sign of the Cross if he ever went to a Catholic ceremony.

Ah, how I long for Kim to be a Catholic... :)

[cpneb]

It would only be appropriate: the Catholic Mass written for the opening of the JFK Center for the Performing Arts by a Jewish composer/conductor: somehow, I think that Ron is laughing about the 'cornucopia of disturbing and disparate and disconnected events....'

When I read that, I immediately thought of Ron messing up the Sign of the Cross if he ever went to a Catholic ceremony.

Ah, how I long for Kim to be a Catholic... :)

(Kim glances at Ron and blushes, then nudges Tara and nods her head in Ron's direction)
(Tara, whispering): RON! It's 4 points, not 6! And, it's not in the shape of a star, either!
(Ron, incensed and whispering): Well, it is, for me!
(Rufus, slapping his head with his right paw): Hoo, boy!

[campy]

Ah, how I long for Kim to be a Catholic... :)Could be. I still say she's part Italian. The way I see it, sometime around 1900 young Timoteo Posabigliano, emigrant from a tiny Sicilian village, arrives at Ellis Island where a clerk changes him into Timothy Possible, and the rest is history ...

[cpneb]

Ah, how I long for Kim to be a Catholic... :)Could be. I still say she's part Italian. The way I see it, sometime around 1900 young Timoteo Posabigliano, emigrant from a tiny Sicilian village, arrives at Ellis Island where a clerk changes him into Timothy Possible, and the rest is history ...

Part Irish, part Italian?

(Ron): Two words, KP.
(Kim, looking quite quizzical and a bit sarcastic): Oh, really, and what would those be, Ron?
(Ron): OY! (slaps his forehead, then thrusts ihis fist in the air) and, BOOYAH!
(Kim, smiling): Right answer, 'Potential Boy.' (she takes his hand.)
(Ron): The Ron-man always got game, Princess. (He squeezes hers, and the smile at each other.)

[Ace Ian Combat]

Ah, how I long for Kim to be a Catholic... :)Could be. I still say she's part Italian. The way I see it, sometime around 1900 young Timoteo Posabigliano, emigrant from a tiny Sicilian village, arrives at Ellis Island where a clerk changes him into Timothy Possible, and the rest is history ...

Part Irish, part Italian?

(Ron): Two words, KP.
(Kim, looking quite quizzical and a bit sarcastic): Oh, really, and what would those be, Ron?
(Ron): OY! (slaps his forehead, then thrusts ihis fist in the air) and, BOOYAH!
(Kim, smiling): Right answer, 'Potential Boy.' (she takes his hand.)
(Ron): The Ron-man always got game, Princess. (He squeezes hers, and the smile at each other.)

Princess? :scared: :blink: Sounds like Ron is channeling Shego. Which is disturbing in itself. :confused:

EDIT: I just looked at my signature and realized I never finished the final details. I'll have to get on that.

[jeriddian]

Ah, how I long for Kim to be a Catholic... :)Could be. I still say she's part Italian. The way I see it, sometime around 1900 young Timoteo Posabigliano, emigrant from a tiny Sicilian village, arrives at Ellis Island where a clerk changes him into Timothy Possible, and the rest is history ...

Part Irish, part Italian?

(Ron): Two words, KP.
(Kim, looking quite quizzical and a bit sarcastic): Oh, really, and what would those be, Ron?
(Ron): OY! (slaps his forehead, then thrusts ihis fist in the air) and, BOOYAH!
(Kim, smiling): Right answer, 'Potential Boy.' (she takes his hand.)
(Ron): The Ron-man always got game, Princess. (He squeezes hers, and the smile at each other.)

I don't know.....Red headed, fair skinned Italians...... Have to be Northern Italian for sure, not Mediterranean stock. Still, I see it more likely she's mainly of Irish stock, at least through her mother's side.

[Ace Ian Combat]

I don't know.....Red headed, fair skinned Italians...... Have to be Northern Italian for sure, not Mediterranean stock. Still, I see it more likely she's mainly of Irish stock, at least through her mother's side.

Did they ever establish what side of the family Aunt June and Larry were on? I had assumed Slim and James's side because James was the one keeping her busy and the brown hair, but my parents insist it's Anne's side.

That reminds me, why is it that every Possible woman (Kim, Joss, Mim) except Nana had red hair? From what I can tell, they've got two hair colors: brown for boys and Nana, and red for girls. I can understand Kim's hair being red because of her mom, so I'm guessing that's where Mim and Joss got it as well?

When I first saw Felix, my first thought was "Oh my gosh, it's another twin." He does look like older Tweebs might. I know BD has plans for this idea. ;)

[campy]

Did they ever establish what side of the family Aunt June and Larry were on? I had assumed Slim and James's side because James was the one keeping her busy and the brown hair, but my parents insist it's Anne's side.They never established it. I think they're Possibles, because you'd expect Ann to be the one more involved if it were her side, but who knows? And June's hair was red, so there's another factor to consider.

That reminds me, why is it that every Possible woman (Kim, Joss, Mim) except Nana had red hair? From what I can tell, they've got two hair colors: brown for boys and Nana, and red for girls.When did they ever show Nana with brown hair?

EDIT: Never mind, I found the screenshot.
http://caps.kpfanworld.com/images/29_The_Golden_Years/557.jpg

[Ace Ian Combat]

They never established it. I think they're Possibles, because you'd expect Ann to be the one more involved if it were her side, but who knows? And June's hair was red, so there's another factor to consider.

When did they ever show Nana with brown hair?

EDIT: Never mind, I found the screenshot.
http://caps.kpfanworld.com/images/29_The_Golden_Years/557.jpg

June's hair was red? I could've sworn it was brown, oh well. Hmm, Nana's hair actually looks slightly red in that picture.

[Fireand'chutes77]

Hmm, Nana's hair actually looks slightly red in that picture.
I agree. Sort of a dark auburn.

[Ace Ian Combat]

Hmm, Nana's hair actually looks slightly red in that picture.
I agree. Sort of a dark auburn.

Maybe it just went by so quickly in the episode that I couldn't see it very well. I don't know, it does look like a very dark auburn.

[campy]

June's definitely a redhead:

http://caps.kpfanworld.com/images/larrys_birthday/0406.jpg

Whether it's natural or not, I won't speculate. ;)

[Ace Ian Combat]

June's definitely a redhead:

http://caps.kpfanworld.com/images/larrys_birthday/0406.jpg

Whether it's natural or not, I won't speculate. ;)

Her hair from that angle looks unnervingly like Electronique's. The color on my T.V. is off, I just didn't know it was off that much. :blink:

And yet her eyebrows are brown. :hmm: Why does Kim get stuck with black eyebrows and June gets brown?

You know, on some level, she scares me just a bit. :unsure:

[campy]

You know, on some level, she scares me just a bit. :unsure:Well, she's a mother whose child is in danger, what do you expect? Of course she's scary. :ohmy:

[Ace Ian Combat]

You know, on some level, she scares me just a bit. :unsure:Well, she's a mother whose child is in danger, what do you expect? Of course she's scary. :ohmy:

Still, I'm afraid of a cartoon. :laugh::rolleyes:

[TransWarpDrive]

I was very upset tonight when I discovered that those rats at DC had pre-empted the late-night repeat of "Kim Possible" so they could show that #%8$@!! "Harry Potter" movie two times, back-to-back! :angry: And I was home from work today; I could have watched today's ep when it ran at half-past noon, local time. But I didn't, so I went into my DVD collection and got a couple of my KP discs out. I ended up watching "Gorilla Fist," then "Showdown at the Crooked D" on my computer's DVD player.
Then I fell asleep in front of the computer, and had a weird dream where I drove to the parking lot of a local arena (where I'd gone to see many concerts before) in order to pick up Kim's cousin Joss, who'd gone there to see a concert. And it was so vivid, too...:blink:

So, Joss, eh? :biggergrin: how old were you, and how old was she in that dream? :laugh:

'nuttin' but love, TWD, nuttin' but love....:innocent:

:laugh:
It was nothing like that; I was doing Uncle Slim a favor by giving Joss a ride home.
EDIT: As for Aunt June, well, my observation of her is she's a neurotic, overprotective mother who obsesses with worry about her only child. So naturally, she'll seem a bit scary. Still, having seen her on the show, I can understand a little better why Larry turned out the way he is.

[Ace Ian Combat]

Heck, I think Larry turned out swell considering his mom. Apparently Possibles have a weakness for redheads though, considering he likes Charlotte. I found it humorous that the voice of Charlotte was actually the voice of Sam from Danny Phantom as well.

[Fireand'chutes77]

Just finished watching "Mind Games" on OnDemand. I'd forgotten just how much of a riot this episode was. :laugh:

"...As a board-certified neurosurgeon, I've got to say it's just not possible to swap brains."
"Point taken, Dr. P. But how else do you explain my bare midriff?"

"What does neutronalize mean, anyway?"
"I have no idea. But the military had it, it was top secret; that's good enough for me."

"You can't destroy this place!"
"So I lose the security deposit; it's worth it!"

I wonder if this episode was the first time the word "puberty" had ever been used on the Disney Channel. :laugh:

The animation was incredible, and that explosion at the end..... Whoo-boy, you felt that. :blink: :D

[Ace Ian Combat]

Just finished watching "Mind Games" on OnDemand. I'd forgotten just how much of a riot this episode was. :laugh:

"...As a board-certified neurosurgeon, I've got to say it's just not possible to swap brains."
"Point taken, Dr. P. But how else do you explain my bare midriff?"

"What does neutronalize mean, anyway?"
"I have no idea. But the military had it, it was top secret; that's good enough for me."

"You can't destroy this place!"
"So I lose the security deposit; it's worth it!"

I wonder if this episode was the first time the word "puberty" had ever been used on the Disney Channel. :laugh:

The animation was incredible, and that explosion at the end..... Whoo-boy, you felt that. :blink: :D

Ah, yes, the explosion.. you can really feel it seems. Gosh, I haven't seen that episode in forever... I miss it. I know I have it recorded somewhere...

[GoTeamGirl]

That is the only KP episode I have in iTunes, and I love it. It's also the one that got me into KP, so it holds a special place in my heart.

[Fireand'chutes77]

That is the only KP episode I have in iTunes, and I love it. It's also the one that got me into KP, so it holds a special place in my heart.
I guess what's really brilliant with this episode (and "Kim Possible" in general) is that it is able to toy with the absurdity of the whole situation ("...It's just not possible to swap brains") and then spin it around into something hilarious. ("Point taken, but how do you explain my bare midriff?") :D


EDIT: And once more, for good measure.... KABLOOIE! (http://www.globaljusticealliance.com/screencaps/episodes/01%20Season%20One/08%20Mind%20Games/1171.jpg) :laugh: :biggergrin:

[TransWarpDrive]

EDIT: And once more, for good measure.... KABLOOIE! (http://www.globaljusticealliance.com/screencaps/episodes/01%20Season%20One/08%20Mind%20Games/1171.jpg) :laugh: :biggergrin:
You got a bang out of that one, huh? :laugh::biggergrin:

[NinjaNaco]

A Sims update... I think I've got Joss right (to the degree that I can), and I gave Bonnie a hairdo that looks more like what she's got on the show:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/joss_bonnie.jpg

Also, on another KP-related topic, why wasn't Nana mentioned in the list of potential heroes for Ron in "Mathter and Fervent?" I can see an exchange like this happening:

RON: What about your grandma? Pilot, kung fu expert, navy commando...
KIM: Ron, she's in Florida, and besides, most of what she did - classified.
<Ron is disappointed>

[GoTeamGirl]

That is the only KP episode I have in iTunes, and I love it. It's also the one that got me into KP, so it holds a special place in my heart.
I guess what's really brilliant with this episode (and "Kim Possible" in general) is that it is able to toy with the absurdity of the whole situation ("...It's just not possible to swap brains") and then spin it around into something hilarious. ("Point taken, but how do you explain my bare midriff?") :D


EDIT: And once more, for good measure.... KABLOOIE! (http://www.globaljusticealliance.com/screencaps/episodes/01%20Season%20One/08%20Mind%20Games/1171.jpg) :laugh: :biggergrin:

:laugh: Gotta love those exploding lairs...

I think what you said above, though, is what makes KP a great show. Especially since I just love humor.

[cpneb]

A Sims update... I think I've got Joss right (to the degree that I can), and I gave Bonnie a hairdo that looks more like what she's got on the show:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/joss_bonnie.jpg

Also, on another KP-related topic, why wasn't Nana mentioned in the list of potential heroes for Ron in "Mathter and Fervent?" I can see an exchange like this happening:

RON: What about your grandma? Pilot, kung fu expert, navy commando...
KIM: Ron, she's in Florida, and besides, most of what she did - classified.
<Ron is disappointed>

NinjaNaco, I like the JossSim! You've done a good job with the limitations of the environment to 'age' her to about 17.
BonnieSim, I'm not sure about: maybe it's because she doesn't have the typical angry look from the show. Looks a bit like the Bonnie from my JadeKimVerse, though: a bit sadder....

[Fireand'chutes77]

That is the only KP episode I have in iTunes, and I love it. It's also the one that got me into KP, so it holds a special place in my heart.
I guess what's really brilliant with this episode (and "Kim Possible" in general) is that it is able to toy with the absurdity of the whole situation ("...It's just not possible to swap brains") and then spin it around into something hilarious. ("Point taken, but how do you explain my bare midriff?") :D


EDIT: And once more, for good measure.... KABLOOIE! (http://www.globaljusticealliance.com/screencaps/episodes/01%20Season%20One/08%20Mind%20Games/1171.jpg) :laugh: :biggergrin:

:laugh: Gotta love those exploding lairs...
The cheerleading bit (http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1460/54362083nl0.jpg) in the beginning wasn't too bad, either... :blink: :rolleyes: :thumbup:

And if you'll now excuse me, I must go get a tall glass of icewater.... ;)

[jeriddian]

That is the only KP episode I have in iTunes, and I love it. It's also the one that got me into KP, so it holds a special place in my heart.
I guess what's really brilliant with this episode (and "Kim Possible" in general) is that it is able to toy with the absurdity of the whole situation ("...It's just not possible to swap brains") and then spin it around into something hilarious. ("Point taken, but how do you explain my bare midriff?") :D


EDIT: And once more, for good measure.... KABLOOIE! (http://www.globaljusticealliance.com/screencaps/episodes/01%20Season%20One/08%20Mind%20Games/1171.jpg) :laugh: :biggergrin:

:laugh: Gotta love those exploding lairs...
The cheerleading bit (http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1460/54362083nl0.jpg) in the beginning wasn't too bad, either... :blink: :rolleyes: :thumbup:

And if you'll now excuse me, I must go get a tall glass of icewater.... ;)

Uhhhh......is that for drinking or for showering?.......:harhar::laugh:

[Fireand'chutes77]

That is the only KP episode I have in iTunes, and I love it. It's also the one that got me into KP, so it holds a special place in my heart.
I guess what's really brilliant with this episode (and "Kim Possible" in general) is that it is able to toy with the absurdity of the whole situation ("...It's just not possible to swap brains") and then spin it around into something hilarious. ("Point taken, but how do you explain my bare midriff?") :D


EDIT: And once more, for good measure.... KABLOOIE! (http://www.globaljusticealliance.com/screencaps/episodes/01%20Season%20One/08%20Mind%20Games/1171.jpg) :laugh: :biggergrin:

:laugh: Gotta love those exploding lairs...
The cheerleading bit (http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1460/54362083nl0.jpg) in the beginning wasn't too bad, either... :blink: :rolleyes: :thumbup:

And if you'll now excuse me, I must go get a tall glass of icewater.... ;)

Uhhhh......is that for drinking or for showering?.......:harhar::laugh:
Maybe both. :laugh:

If this was ARA, of course, that post would have "vanished" in sixteen seconds flat. :dubiety: :laugh:

That little opening sequence (probably as close to "fan service" as Disney will ever get) generated a -gulp- even back in 2002, and so five years and an (ongoing) cocktail of hormones later...

*Higher functions eyes F'C's pituitary warily and carefully reaches back for the trusty shovel.* :blush:

[NinjaNaco]

The JossSim is a child, though I did modify her in the "teen" section before "de-aging" her in the Make the Sim section.

Anyway, I was thinking... on Zaratan's ff.net forum there was some discussion about whether or not Kim was "chickified" over the course of the show. Basically everyone on the forum said no, though one person (Molloy, I think) pointed out that, in terms of merchandising, Kim Possible has indeed been "chickified."

Which made me think ... could Kim's new mission outfit be a visual "chickification." Think about it - the marketing department forced MBS to give Kim a new outfit, and what happens with said suit? Well, the old, quasi-military look of the old outfit (with its earth tone colors) are replaced by purple, a color which - while not as feminine as pink, does seem to be more "girly" than, say, brown or olive drab.

Speaking of Kim's outfits, did you notice that they had new winder suits in "Graduation?" I was disappointed, having thought that the fact Kim not only kept her red winter jacket after "Bueno Nacho" but continued to wear it (when appropriate) for several seasons was a sign of character development (not caring about trends and all that.) :)

[cpneb]

The JossSim is a child, though I did modify her in the "teen" section before "de-aging" her in the Make the Sim section.

Anyway, I was thinking... on Zaratan's ff.net forum there was some discussion about whether or not Kim was "chickified" over the course of the show. Basically everyone on the forum said no, though one person (Molloy, I think) pointed out that, in terms of merchandising, Kim Possible has indeed been "chickified."

Which made me think ... could Kim's new mission outfit be a visual "chickification." Think about it - the marketing department forced MBS to give Kim a new outfit, and what happens with said suit? Well, the old, quasi-military look of the old outfit (with its earth tone colors) are replaced by purple, a color which - while not as feminine as pink, does seem to be more "girly" than, say, brown or olive drab.

Speaking of Kim's outfits, did you notice that they had new winder suits in "Graduation?" I was disappointed, having thought that the fact Kim not only kept her red winter jacket after "Bueno Nacho" but continued to wear it (when appropriate) for several seasons was a sign of character development (not caring about trends and all that.) :)


First, about the JossSim: you still captured her quite well, and I thank you for the work.

About Kim's new mission outfit: I tought the purple as a royal color, and it works (besides, she looks good in it!).

As for Kim's winter jacket: I figure that she wore it out, after wearing it all this time....

[NinjaNaco]

Yeah, Kim looks good in her new outfit. Though you can see from my sig how I'd like to change it. :)

And Kim was wearing the red jacket as late as "Team Impossible."

Also, looking at some of the screencaps on this page, it seems that June shares the same upturned nose as Joss. As Nana doesn't sport such a snout (alliteration! :) ), I wonder if it comes from Kim's grandpa (and no, I'm not talking about Otto Skorzeny. ;) )

[cpneb]

Also, looking at some of the screencaps on this page, it seems that June shares the same upturned nose as Joss. As Nana doesn't sport such a snout (alliteration! :) ), I wonder if it comes from Kim's grandpa (and no, I'm not talking about Otto Skorzeny. ;) )

I was more worried about her 'Ron' ears and her growing into them.... :laugh:

[NinjaNaco]

Saw the last part of "The Big Job."

One of the nice little touches in that ep is when Ron mentions he's read Martin Smarty's book three times, Kim wonders why, or how, Ron could read a book "without it being assigned." To me, that little touch shows Kim knowing Ron's character (he's not exactly the scholarly type), but avoids the temptation of making a joke at Ron's expense (saying he's illiterate or something.)

Just noting a little something that I've always like about that ep.

[KimforHim]

Not sure if this has anything to do with the price of crude or the mortgage market, but some KP items are definately going up in value (or people are getting a bit crazy on ebay from a lack of merchandise from our favorite show).

Exhibit A:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=270177422871&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017

Soon, a KIM lamp will aproach the value of an original Tiffany lamp!:P

[Ace Ian Combat]

A Sims update... I think I've got Joss right (to the degree that I can), and I gave Bonnie a hairdo that looks more like what she's got on the show:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/joss_bonnie.jpg

Also, on another KP-related topic, why wasn't Nana mentioned in the list of potential heroes for Ron in "Mathter and Fervent?" I can see an exchange like this happening:

RON: What about your grandma? Pilot, kung fu expert, navy commando...
KIM: Ron, she's in Florida, and besides, most of what she did - classified.
<Ron is disappointed>

*Blinks* I'm liking the Bonnie very much, the face definitely looks likes her.

The cheerleading bit in the beginning wasn't too bad, either...

And if you'll now excuse me, I must go get a tall glass of icewater....

I remember that, when I got my friend Bladed Darkness into the show Mind Games was the first she saw, and erm, she unnerved me a bit at first (I'll merely suffice to say it was a reaction similar to yours, 'chutes). :laugh:

[Fireand'chutes77]

The cheerleading bit in the beginning wasn't too bad, either...

And if you'll now excuse me, I must go get a tall glass of icewater....

I remember that, when I got my friend Bladed Darkness into the show Mind Games was the first she saw, and erm, she unnerved me a bit at first (I'll merely suffice to say it was a reaction similar to yours, 'chutes). :laugh:
Ummm... She?

I fear I'm in the process of making too-hasty assumptions.... :unsure:

[TransWarpDrive]

It "grinds my beans" (to borrow a phrase from Kim's dad) that every time Disney Channel runs a "Harry Potter" movie, they run it twice on a Friday night, pre-empting the rest of the evening's schedule - including the late-night KP rerun! :angry: I was so ticked off last night when I saw the on-screen schedule that I could've spit bullets.
I like the HP films as much as anyone else, but do they have to show them twice on the same evening? Yes, they're appropriate films for Halloween month, but they don't run the "Twitches" films or the "Halloweentown" movies twice. They only do it for the "Potter" movies. Why does DC run them like that?
Instead of watching anything on cable, I pulled out my "Batman Begins" DVD and watched that instead.

[cpneb]

The cheerleading bit in the beginning wasn't too bad, either...

And if you'll now excuse me, I must go get a tall glass of icewater....

I remember that, when I got my friend Bladed Darkness into the show Mind Games was the first she saw, and erm, she unnerved me a bit at first (I'll merely suffice to say it was a reaction similar to yours, 'chutes). :laugh:
Ummm... She?

I fear I'm in the process of making too-hasty assumptions.... :unsure:

FnC, what perplexes you and causes you to make assumptions? What have I missed here, of is it the old man who's not awake enough to catch some subtler message?

[jeriddian]

I fear I'm in the process of making too-hasty assumptions.... :unsure:

FnC, what perplexes you and causes you to make assumptions? What have I missed here, of is it the old man who's not awake enough to catch some subtler message?

It might perhaps be an age related phenomenon.:P:rolleyes:

[TransWarpDrive]

I fear I'm in the process of making too-hasty assumptions.... :unsure:

FnC, what perplexes you and causes you to make assumptions? What have I missed here, of is it the old man who's not awake enough to catch some subtler message?

It might perhaps be an age related phenomenon.:P:rolleyes:
I think 'chutes may have assumed AIC's friend Bladed Darkness was a male instead of a female. With a gender-neutral, dramatic nickname like that, I can see why he'd jump to such a conclusion.
EDIT: I just remembered - someone over at the ARA once thought I was a female, so that only reinforces my theory... :laugh::P

[Fireand'chutes77]

I fear I'm in the process of making too-hasty assumptions.... :unsure:

FnC, what perplexes you and causes you to make assumptions? What have I missed here, of is it the old man who's not awake enough to catch some subtler message?

It might perhaps be an age related phenomenon.:P:rolleyes:
I think 'chutes may have assumed AIC's friend Bladed Darkness was a male instead of a female...
Um, not that... I've sent you a PM explaining.

(This has gotten a lot more entangled than I'd expected...)

[TransWarpDrive]

I fear I'm in the process of making too-hasty assumptions.... :unsure:

FnC, what perplexes you and causes you to make assumptions? What have I missed here, of is it the old man who's not awake enough to catch some subtler message?

It might perhaps be an age related phenomenon.:P:rolleyes:
I think 'chutes may have assumed AIC's friend Bladed Darkness was a male instead of a female...
Um, not that... I've sent you a PM explaining.

(This has gotten a lot more entangled than I'd expected...)

PM received and read; reply has been sent.
(And your PM blew my theory here all to shreds...)

[NinjaNaco]

Thinking about this frame from "Graduation" (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/zita_graduation.jpg) and how the blond girl might be Tara, I came up with a theory ...

... what if Tara's a Flores?

Now, Zita's surname is Spanish in origin, which means at least her dad's side of the family is Hispanic in origin. Tara, however, is a blond-haired, blue-eyed example of Nordic cuteness.

So, the theory is that Tara was adopted by Zita's family (either immediate or expanded) and thus, as either cousins or sisters, share the same surname.

And it would be kinda funny (or ironic, or something) to see Tara, the blond-haired "Anglo," snap so naturally into the Hispanic milieu...

(Not to mention family reunions, where she might be the only white face in a sea of brown. ;) )

[cpneb]

Thinking about this frame from "Graduation" (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/zita_graduation.jpg) and how the blond girl might be Tara, I came up with a theory ...

... what if Tara's a Flores?

Now, Zita's surname is Spanish in origin, which means at least her dad's side of the family is Hispanic in origin. Tara, however, is a blond-haired, blue-eyed example of Nordic cuteness.

So, the theory is that Tara was adopted by Zita's family (either immediate or expanded) and thus, as either cousins or sisters, share the same surname.

And it would be kinda funny (or ironic, or something) to see Tara, the blond-haired "Anglo," snap so naturally into the Hispanic milieu...

(Not to mention family reunions, where she might be the only white face in a sea of brown. ;) )

Even simpler: Tara's originally from Mexico (Mexico City, or a suburb), where blond, blue-eyed goddesses are not uncommon (check Telemundo).

[jeriddian]

Thinking about this frame from "Graduation" (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/zita_graduation.jpg) and how the blond girl might be Tara, I came up with a theory ...

... what if Tara's a Flores?

Now, Zita's surname is Spanish in origin, which means at least her dad's side of the family is Hispanic in origin. Tara, however, is a blond-haired, blue-eyed example of Nordic cuteness.

So, the theory is that Tara was adopted by Zita's family (either immediate or expanded) and thus, as either cousins or sisters, share the same surname.

And it would be kinda funny (or ironic, or something) to see Tara, the blond-haired "Anglo," snap so naturally into the Hispanic milieu...

(Not to mention family reunions, where she might be the only white face in a sea of brown. ;) )

Even simpler: Tara's originally from Mexico (Mexico City, or a suburb), where blond, blue-eyed goddesses are not uncommon (check Telemundo).

Certainly possible, but her speaking lines so far make Tara clearly Anglo accented, so not likely I would think. As to the frame from graduation, I do believe that actually is Tara. So there could be good speculation that her last name is close alphabetically to Zita's

[cpneb]

Thinking about this frame from "Graduation" (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/zita_graduation.jpg) and how the blond girl might be Tara, I came up with a theory ...

... what if Tara's a Flores?

Now, Zita's surname is Spanish in origin, which means at least her dad's side of the family is Hispanic in origin. Tara, however, is a blond-haired, blue-eyed example of Nordic cuteness.

So, the theory is that Tara was adopted by Zita's family (either immediate or expanded) and thus, as either cousins or sisters, share the same surname.

And it would be kinda funny (or ironic, or something) to see Tara, the blond-haired "Anglo," snap so naturally into the Hispanic milieu...

(Not to mention family reunions, where she might be the only white face in a sea of brown. ;) )

Even simpler: Tara's originally from Mexico (Mexico City, or a suburb), where blond, blue-eyed goddesses are not uncommon (check Telemundo).

Certainly possible, but her speaking lines so far make Tara clearly Anglo accented, so not likely I would think. As to the frame from graduation, I do believe that actually is Tara. So there could be good speculation that her last name is close alphabetically to Zita's

Her last name could indeed be Flores or close in the alphabet and she could be from Mexico City: several families, wanting to make certain that their children arriving in the US aren't discriminated against because of how they sound, even with the name, make certain that their accents are eliminated unless they fall into the mother language. So, Tara could be a Mexican blond bombshell with no accent in her English language speech....

How do I know this? Lots of friends that grew up in the barrios of West Texas (including yours truly) and my parents wanted to make sure that my location and my ethnicity didn't control my future, so she sat me and my brothers in front of Walter Cronkite every night until we were 8 or 9. I know Hispanic parents that did the same thing.

...just a possibility....

[Fireand'chutes77]

...How do I know this? Lots of friends that grew up in the barrios of West Texas (including yours truly) and my parents wanted to make sure that my location and my ethnicity didn't control my future, so she sat me and my brothers in front of Walter Cronkite every night until we were 8 or 9. I know Hispanic parents that did the same thing.
Wow, that's cool. It would be be nice if 100% English-speaking parents did this with their 100% English-speaking kids, too. (Or, heck, if everybody did it.) Then we might not get stuck with a rising generation of apathetic egotists. :ohwell:

[TransWarpDrive]

...my parents wanted to make sure that my location and my ethnicity didn't control my future, so she sat me and my brothers in front of Walter Cronkite every night until we were 8 or 9...
:blink: Now I have this mental image of you and your brothers as kids, sounding exactly like Walter Cronkite whenever you speak... :blink:
"...And that's the way it is..."

[cpneb]

...my parents wanted to make sure that my location and my ethnicity didn't control my future, so she sat me and my brothers in front of Walter Cronkite every night until we were 8 or 9...
:blink: Now I have this mental image of you and your brothers as kids, sounding exactly like Walter Cronkite whenever you speak... :blink:
"...And that's the way it is..."


close....We have what is called a "Midwestern Newscaster's accent," meaning little or none.

...other than our y'all (which we can't replace, being from Texas).

[NinjaNaco]

Cpneb's comment about there being a lot of blonde blondshells on Telemundo et al reminded me of a certain cultural problem that's known to exist in place such as the Philippines and India - where lighter skin is seen to be more beautiful and such (there's even skin-lightening products there. :rolleyes: ) Methinks this is objectionable for both personal and moral reasons - not only is it racist, but I'd prefer it for those hot girls keep their luscious, black hair and their warm, brown skin. ;)

What does that do with the blondes on Telemundo? Well, I was thinking the number of said girls on Spanish TV (I think - I usually just stick to English-speaking channels) might be a reflection of that "light and blond is better than brown and black" mentality."

I've been thinking about this (the Tara Flores thing, that is), and while it seems more plausible that Tara could be Zita's cousin, I prefer the theory that they're sisters. :) True, it was implied Zita was a new girl in town (the theater didn't have her name tag yet), but it was never explicitly stated, IIRC. (Maybe she just started that job, and that was that. Maybe she spent a semester/year as an exchange student, which would explain her abscence in Season 1. ;)

Then there's the fact that Tara's got an "Anglo" accent, while Zita clearly shows a Mexican/Hispanic accent in her English speech. Thinking about that, I came up with a theory that as a little kid/toddler, Tara watch more TV than Zita did - partially due to the fact that there were people "like her" on TV (hey, if you're a white, blond girl, and everyone else in your family has brown/olive skin and dark hair...) - and so while Zita gets some her accent from her family, Tara gets hers (so to speak) from the TV. (When Tara speaks Spanish, though... ;) )

Don't know how plausible that is. In revising my Sims 2 Flores family, I included Tara into the clan:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/floresfamilywtara.png

[lunchmeat]

A friend of mine's wife lived in Korea when her father was stationed there. She has blonde hair and used to get freaked out when her mother took her into town shopping because people would keep touching her hair and trying to cut locks of it for souvenirs.

[cpneb]

just some thoughts...

Cpneb's comment about there being a lot of blonde blondshells on Telemundo et al reminded me of a certain cultural problem that's known to exist in place such as the Philippines and India - where lighter skin is seen to be more beautiful and such (there's even skin-lightening products there. :rolleyes: ) Methinks this is objectionable for both personal and moral reasons - not only is it racist, but I'd prefer it for those hot girls keep their luscious, black hair and their warm, brown skin. ;)

What does that do with the blondes on Telemundo? Well, I was thinking the number of said girls on Spanish TV (I think - I usually just stick to English-speaking channels) might be a reflection of that "light and blond is better than brown and black" mentality."

You have to understand the reasons for these 'sitches,' NinjaNaco, to truly appreciate them.

In the case of Mexico, there is the 'bloodline' issue, associating the families back to their Spain roots as opposed to any 'blending' with the native Aztec population. Mixed bloodlines resulted in fewer blondes in the country, making the rarity become more prevalent.

In the case of the Indian sub-continent, the issue of skin color relates back the British involvement in the area's past and the relationships between the British, at that time, living in the country and the native countrymen. As occurs in history (as well as today's world), that which is different and/or less common, perceived as 'exotic,' is considered more desirable (two cases in point: Kim, and Shego (one redheaded star, and the other, not because of her hair, but because of her green-tinted skin (perhaps a nod back to the original "Star Trek"?).

What are the demographics on Telemundo? I haven't counted the ladies (There's a job worth getting paid for!), but I'd expect that the mix is there for the same reason that the mix exists on American television: what draws the demographic viewers (i.e., 17-34 males) to the screens for the advertisers for the specific shows in question. It's not a "light/blond good, brown/dark bad" aka Animal Farm, but more of what is in the mind/head of the 17-34 male.

Then there's the fact that Tara's got an "Anglo" accent, while Zita clearly shows a Mexican/Hispanic accent in her English speech. Thinking about that, I came up with a theory that as a little kid/toddler, Tara watch more TV than Zita did - partially due to the fact that there were people "like her" on TV (hey, if you're a white, blond girl, and everyone else in your family has brown/olive skin and dark hair...) - and so while Zita gets some her accent from her family, Tara gets hers (so to speak) from the TV. (When Tara speaks Spanish, though... ;) )

Don't know how plausible that is. In revising my Sims 2 Flores family, I included Tara into the clan:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/floresfamilywtara.png

I like your theory for Tara's accent, and you understand the impact of television in a reverse sitch. Now, imagine what it has done to today's Hispanic and African/American kids (or, even a bigger impact, to those of us who grew up in the 60s, where Ms. Carroll and Ms. Nichols were the first two women of color on the screen that weren't the maid!), and you now have a taste of the "joys" that we're still addressing in our own country. We're still a great place to be, IMHO, but that's no reason to sit on our laurels: we can, and should, continue to strive for the start, literally and figuratively, in our personal interactions and relationships.

That being said, consider DNAmy....

[NinjaNaco]

Interesting info, cpneb.

And here's some pics of the Flores family (including Tara!) up close (so to speak):
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/thefloresfamily.png

[NinjaNaco]

Hope I'm not breaking any rules by double-posting... if I am, I'll just integrate this post with the one above it...

Anyway, it seems everyone on RS.net is having the opposite reaction to the "Tara Flores" theory than the one people here have. Namely, they think it's unlikely, if not preposterous.

On another topic, in the Sims 2I decided to put Joss and Wade in as adult newlyweds in one of the non-KP neighborhoods (1 neighborhood, Middleton, is the main KP one.) They've got a small house, Wade is working as a Test Subject for scientists, and I'm waiting for some promotions for Wade before they start making babies.

Here's a pic of the happy couple:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/jadesims.png
(I will admit, though, to wondering about what to do with Wade's hair. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/whichwade.jpg))

[lunchmeat]

I wonder how many of them have actually been to Mexico? Many people don't realise that a sizeable German community settled there after the Second World War, not to mention former Confederates, Mormons and other groups during the 1800s. I met a girl down there who looked very much like Tara on a scuba diving trip (she was one of the dive masters), whose family had lived in the Yucatan for several generations.

[cpneb]

Hope I'm not breaking any rules by double-posting... if I am, I'll just integrate this post with the one above it...

Anyway, it seems everyone on RS.net is having the opposite reaction to the "Tara Flores" theory than the one people here have. Namely, they think it's unlikely, if not preposterous.

On another topic, in the Sims 2I decided to put Joss and Wade in as adult newlyweds in one of the non-KP neighborhoods (1 neighborhood, Middleton, is the main KP one.) They've got a small house, Wade is working as a Test Subject for scientists, and I'm waiting for some promotions for Wade before they start making babies.

Here's a pic of the happy couple:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/jadesims.png
(I will admit, though, to wondering about what to do with Wade's hair. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/whichwade.jpg))

The response on RS.net is not surprising: it (the gathering) tends may not have had some of the same experiences. I'll drop in over there and 'stir the pot' (LOL!).

Regarding Wade's hair, I'd go with a shorter version of the first one you had in the link. Wade's a bit more conservative, and he's still more of a short-hair and smooth top, no product, please (and, certainly, no LeGoop!).

Slyrr over on FF.net has a pic of Joss that he's drawn, and I don't know what the rules are regarding posting it. It's a link to deviantArt, and the pic is, as worst, PG-13: will someone let me know if it's kosher to post the link here? Please, and thank you....

I wonder how many of them have actually been to Mexico? Many people don't realise that a sizeable German community settled there after the Second World War, not to mention former Confederates, Mormons and other groups during the 1800s. I met a girl down there who looked very much like Tara on a scuba diving trip (she was one of the dive masters), whose family had lived in the Yucatan for several generations.

Lunchmeat, thanks for reminding me of that fact! I'd completely forgotten about the travels south of Mormons, Comfederates, and several additional religious groups. Additionally, the large German contingent landed there rather than what would have likely been one of their first choices, the German community in central Texas.

[lunchmeat]

Good brewpubs in Fredericksburg.....

[Fireand'chutes77]

Slyrr over on FF.net has a pic of Joss that he's drawn, and I don't know what the rules are regarding posting it. It's a link to deviantArt, and the pic is, as worst, PG-13: will someone let me know if it's kosher to post the link here? Please, and thank you....
Having seen it, I think it would be acceptable to post here. There's nothing too overtly bawdy about it. However, the artist mentioned something about it being part of a "pinup series," so we must tread carefully with later images.

[jeriddian]

Anyway, it seems everyone on RS.net is having the opposite reaction to the "Tara Flores" theory than the one people here have. Namely, they think it's unlikely, if not preposterous.

I myself am not opposed to the theory, but I must admit I too think it very unlikely as she has no accent to go along with it. The Sim pics are nice though.:D

[Fireand'chutes77]

Something of a random thought:

Remember how the "What's the Switch" game for the PS2 had various unlockable outfits, including Shego in Kim's original mission wear?

Don't look now, but I think "Kimitation Nation" might have had the design all ready to go... Check the girl on the far left (http://caps.kpfanworld.com/veiw_pic.php?av=101-200&ep=16_Kimitation_Nation&pic=197.jpg).

:blink: :D

[KimforHim]

Quick commercial break - I previously posted an ebay auction showing a KP lamp going for $105. I thought that was pretty outrageous, but it's nothing compared to the results of this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190167598217&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009

:eek::eek::eek: $241.79!!!???

Move over Stiffel and Tiffany; we have a new "upper class" of light fixtures!!

We return you now back to the discussion at hand.....

[jeriddian]

Quick commercial break - I previously posted an ebay auction showing a KP lamp going for $105. I thought that was pretty outrageous, but it's nothing compared to the results of this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190167598217&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009

:eek::eek::eek: $241.79!!!???

Move over Stiffel and Tiffany; we have a new "upper class" of light fixtures!!

We return you now back to the discussion at hand.....

Well, it appears we do have our die hard fans, don't we? Look out trekkies! You ain't the only ones out there.:biggergrin:

[Fireand'chutes77]

Quick commercial break - I previously posted an ebay auction showing a KP lamp going for $105. I thought that was pretty outrageous, but it's nothing compared to the results of this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190167598217&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009

:eek::eek::eek: $241.79!!!???

Move over Stiffel and Tiffany; we have a new "upper class" of light fixtures!!

We return you now back to the discussion at hand.....
$241 bucks?!! :scared:

Hmmm.... Where can I find some KP merch to resell...? :hmm: :laugh: :P

[cpneb]

Quick commercial break - I previously posted an ebay auction showing a KP lamp going for $105. I thought that was pretty outrageous, but it's nothing compared to the results of this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190167598217&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009

:eek::eek::eek: $241.79!!!???

Move over Stiffel and Tiffany; we have a new "upper class" of light fixtures!!

We return you now back to the discussion at hand.....
$241 bucks?!! :scared:

Hmmm.... Where can I find some KP merch to resell...? :hmm: :laugh: :P

Smarty-Mart, Aisle 273....right next to the Scooby-Doo lava lamps!

[TransWarpDrive]

Quick commercial break - I previously posted an ebay auction showing a KP lamp going for $105. I thought that was pretty outrageous, but it's nothing compared to the results of this auction:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=190167598217&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009

:eek::eek::eek: $241.79!!!???

Move over Stiffel and Tiffany; we have a new "upper class" of light fixtures!!

We return you now back to the discussion at hand.....
:blink: Wow.
$241.79 for a Kim Possible lamp!?
I don't remember offhand how much I paid for mine, but it was definitely a bargain by comparison.

[cpneb]

Hope I'm not breaking any rules by double-posting... if I am, I'll just integrate this post with the one above it...

Anyway, it seems everyone on RS.net is having the opposite reaction to the "Tara Flores" theory than the one people here have. Namely, they think it's unlikely, if not preposterous.

On another topic, in the Sims 2I decided to put Joss and Wade in as adult newlyweds in one of the non-KP neighborhoods (1 neighborhood, Middleton, is the main KP one.) They've got a small house, Wade is working as a Test Subject for scientists, and I'm waiting for some promotions for Wade before they start making babies.

Here's a pic of the happy couple:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/jadesims.png
(I will admit, though, to wondering about what to do with Wade's hair. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/whichwade.jpg))

Two comments on the Wade/Joss pic, NinjaNaco:
1, knowing Joss, her hand would be moved...but, after all, this is a family-friendly site!
and
2, with Wade's inventions, he would have the bucks to afford more than a 'small' house. Remember, he's been building things for KP, and you know that several of them were sold to GJ for at least US $0.25.

Regarding the 'Tina/Zita' sisters thread and discussion:
I just got back over to RS.net and went through the posting on the 'Tina Flores' discussion. I'm pulling across a post of yours from there, and my response is below your quote, for continuity, and to provide an example from real life that mayor may not surprise you. 'Hope' you enjoy it....

You only think you've ended a war, tuscon ... just wait for my counterattack! :)

Anyway, I never said that Tara was a Flores, I simply stated she could be.

(In fact, when I first noticed that the girl next to Zita looked like Tara, I thought ... &quot;
could Tara be, in fact, a Flagg? (i.e. related to Brick) )

True, the blond girl is to Zita's right, but given that we don't know which side of of the line they're seated on, we can't be sure if her name comes alphabetically before Zita's, or after. (&quot;Before&quot; would, of course, be a prerequisite for Tara (if the blond girl is Tara) either being a sibling of either Brick or Zita.)

As for physical differences, I'll admit that they basically exclude the possibility of Zita and Tara being biological sisters. It does not, however, exclude the possibility that they're biological cousins. Given that all we know about the girls' respective families is that Zita's grandmother has bobby pins, it could very well be that Zita is the product of an interracial union, with Tara being a cousin from the &quot;white&quot; side of Zita's family.

I also must admit that my favorite &quot;Tara Flores&quot; theory - that Tara is Zita's adopted sister - is somewhat unlikely, given the girls' voices. Zita speaks English with a definite Mexican/Hispanic accent, while Tara does not. Thinking about this, I came up with a scenario: one day little Tara notices that she's got light skin and blond hair, while everyone else she knows has brown skin and black hair. But then she watches TV and notices that there other people on there with white skin and blond people - other people just like her! So, she decides to imitate the people on the TV while Zita, not having such an identity crisis, takes up the accent and such of her Latin milieu.

It might be a bit of a stretch, but it might not be. In a similar discussion on GJA, cpneb mentioned that as a kid living in West Texas, his parents placed him and his sibling in front of the TV to watch Walter Cronkite for four hours. Why? So that instead of having a regional accent that might hinder them in society, they'd have &quot;normal&quot; American voices.

(If I got anything wrong about cpneb's story - I'm citing it from memory right now - my apologies.)

So, that's all I've got say about that right now. Tara very well might not be related to Zita, but then again, she very well could be.

NinjaNaco, you had a very good memory, but there was one thing that I omitted from the discussion, mainly because most of the folks already knew it: I'm African-American, so, for my parents, growing up in the 1930s and Dad in the Pacific in WWII in the 1940s, providing us with as many perceived advantages as they could was critical for them.

My personal fav is the story told to me by my daughter about her freshman year in college (daughter, btw, looks just like me: blonde hair, blue eyes...yes, she's my wife's, but I adopted her and her brother after we got married, and they changed their last names to mine - their choice).

Daughter has a family picture, and her roommate kept staring at it with a confused look on her face.

First, she asked about the pic, and daughter told her it was of her family.

Second, she wanted to know who the 'black man' was in the pic, and daughter said it was her father.

Brain freeze on part of roommate ensued, and she sat quiet for a few minutes, and then asked if daughter was sure. Daughter
affirmed her statement.

Roommate wanted to know how it happened, and daughter stared at her and and told her that I adopted her and her brother.

Roommate still looked like deer in headlights, and daughter asked her if she knew what adoption was. Roommate shakes head in the negative, and daughter adopted 'deer/headlights' look.

"Are you serious?" Daughter asked.

"Really: what's adoption?" Roommate replied.

This happened in SEPTEMBER 2000, and this is not a backwater school, but a well-recognized liberal-arts private school that has a strong academic reputation.

Some folks lead a sheltered life....

So, tusconcoyote, anything's "Possible": check her name!

And, NinjaNaco, thanks for the shoutout.

[Fireand'chutes77]

...daughter stared at her and and told her that I adopted her and her brother.

Roommate still looked like deer in headlights, and daughter asked her if she knew what adoption was. Roommate shakes head in the negative, and daughter adopted 'deer/headlights' look.

"Are you serious?" Daughter asked.

"Really: what's adoption?" Roommate replied.

This happened in SEPTEMBER 2000, and this is not a backwater school, but a well-recognized liberal-arts private school that has a strong academic reputation.
:scared:

I'm worried about the future of America... :laugh: :blink: :unsure:

I mean, that's just.... wow....

[cpneb]

...daughter stared at her and and told her that I adopted her and her brother.

Roommate still looked like deer in headlights, and daughter asked her if she knew what adoption was. Roommate shakes head in the negative, and daughter adopted 'deer/headlights' look.

"Are you serious?" Daughter asked.

"Really: what's adoption?" Roommate replied.

This happened in SEPTEMBER 2000, and this is not a backwater school, but a well-recognized liberal-arts private school that has a strong academic reputation.
:scared:

I'm worried about the future of America... :laugh: :blink: :unsure:

I mean, that's just.... wow....

Fireand'chutes77:

The young lady in question has grown a great deal over the past few years, and she's much wiser than she was when she arrived from home, those years ago.

With individuals like you, AceIanCombat, Twila Starla, Akinyi, and kt of jakt (both from ffnet), I have no worries about our country's future: add to that list my daughter, with her BA, working on her RN, and her compassion, along with several of her friends, and I feel comfortable that I'll go, and there are good people remaining behind, who understand the 'Freedom isn't Free.'

[jeriddian]

You only think you've ended a war, tuscon ... just wait for my counterattack! :)

Well, NinjaNaco is dealing with TucsonCoyote here, who, shall we say, has........issues..............:rolleyes:

[Greenmandmz]

Well, I do believe this is my first post in the KP section of GJA.

After spending awhile browsing youtube watching KP music videos of all sorts, one in particular got me in the mood to watch A Sitch In Time again. While watching ASiT, I managed to catch a few things just now I had missed with previous viewings of the movie that now I wondered how I could have missed them before. [stating obvious]The replay value of this series is amazing, and I think I might just have to have a marathon of my KP collection to discover more aspects that I completely missed up until just a few days ago.[/stating obvious] :P

Seriously, just when think you've squeezed every drop out of every nook and cranny KP has to offer, you discover something you missed the first twenty times you've watched it which compels you to watch and analyze it all over again (the whole series, not just a single episode). It was upon watching Graduation: Parts 1 & 2 when Wade said Drakken failed numerous times to take over the world that Kim said he was due for a success that I realized what I had missed. It was this line that jolted my memory when rewatching ASiT that Kim also used this line here. She said right after meeting the future Wade in person about infiltrating Shego's palace. Hearing this line in Graduation caused me to final realize what she said in ASiT. With this revelation, I'll need to start going through each episode to see where else she says it.

Blinded by the obvious could apply here, but then again this is the kind stuff that makes KP watchable over and over again. That's what makes it such a beloved show (heck, this board is living proof of that! :D).

[Fireand'chutes77]

I agree. It's amazing how wryly hilarious an episode like "Mind Games" can be, even five years after the series debut. :D

(...Five years?!! :eek:)

[jeriddian]

Well, I do believe this is my first post in the KP section of GJA.

After spending awhile browsing youtube watching KP music videos of all sorts, one in particular got me in the mood to watch A Sitch In Time again. While watching ASiT, I managed to catch a few things just now I had missed with previous viewings of the movie that now I wondered how I could have missed them before. [stating obvious]The replay value of this series is amazing, and I think I might just have to have a marathon of my KP collection to discover more aspects that I completely missed up until just a few days ago.[/stating obvious] :P

Seriously, just when think you've squeezed every drop out of every nook and cranny KP has to offer, you discover something you missed the first twenty times you've watched it which compels you to watch and analyze it all over again (the whole series, not just a single episode). It was upon watching Graduation: Parts 1 & 2 when Wade said Drakken failed numerous times to take over the world that Kim said he was due for a success that I realized what I had missed. It was this line that jolted my memory when rewatching ASiT that Kim also used this line here. She said right after meeting the future Wade in person about infiltrating Shego's palace. Hearing this line in Graduation caused me to final realize what she said in ASiT. With this revelation, I'll need to start going through each episode to see where else she says it.

Blinded by the obvious could apply here, but then again this is the kind stuff that makes KP watchable over and over again. That's what makes it such a beloved show (heck, this board is living proof of that! :D).

Couldn't have said it better myself.:) I also remember that "Then he's due" line in Graduation, although the line in ASiT was slightly different, being "Then we're due." But it's still the same optimistic approach that KP has always projected. I, too go through numerous revelations when I see the episodes fresh and new after not seeing them in a while.:thumbup:

[cpneb]

I agree. It's amazing how wryly hilarious an episode like "Mind Games" can be, even five years after the series debut. :D

(...Five years?!! :eek:)

Yes, Fireand'chutes77, you're getting old: welcome to the real world!

It does seem hard to realize that we've been lucky enough to have Kim in our lives this long and, yet, we still want more. Kinda like your first taste of a naco, or that first kiss... ah, good times....

Personally, I'm preparing for the upcoming movies: After all, anything is, indeed, 'Possible,' and she did tell us that's she's '...full of surprises.'

[NinjaNaco]

Well, here's an update from my "other" KP Sims project - Wade and Load Possible with their newborn daughter, Christina:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/jadesimsfamily.jpg

I've thought about making the kid Load in my KP neighborhood, but not sure how to get him to look like he's Wade...

[TransWarpDrive]

I just watched the KP ep "Big Bother" on DC tonight, and I noticed something in the scene in the Blue Shrine where Kim, Ron, and Yori are grabbed by those stone creatures that have come to life. Kim, as she's being held by one of the creatures, reminds me of a Kim Possible beanbag doll being gripped in somebody's hand. The proportions of the creature's paw (Hand?) to Kim's body are roughly the same as those of the beanbag doll to an adult human's hand.
At least, that's what it reminds me of...
(BTW, did I already post this observation in a previous thread? If so, I apologize. It's just that the comparison between Kim and the doll is so strong in my mind that it pops into my head every time I view this episode. I've looked through the GJA forum as best I could, and could not find a post by me making this comparison. It's possible I missed it somewhere, but I don't know - it's also possible that I never posted the above comments until just now.)

[KimforHim]

TransWarpDrive: "....reminds me of a Kim Possible beanbag doll being gripped in somebody's hand."


Talk about your product placements! :P

[TransWarpDrive]

TransWarpDrive: "....reminds me of a Kim Possible beanbag doll being gripped in somebody's hand."


Talk about your product placements! :P
:laugh:
You know, you're right; it is sort of a product placement, isn't it?
Never thought of it that way before... :D

[Ace Ian Combat]

I fear I'm in the process of making too-hasty assumptions.... :unsure:

FnC, what perplexes you and causes you to make assumptions? What have I missed here, of is it the old man who's not awake enough to catch some subtler message?

It might perhaps be an age related phenomenon.:P:rolleyes:
I think 'chutes may have assumed AIC's friend Bladed Darkness was a male instead of a female...
Um, not that... I've sent you a PM explaining.

(This has gotten a lot more entangled than I'd expected...)

PM received and read; reply has been sent.
(And your PM blew my theory here all to shreds...)

The funny thing is if you're thinking what I'm thinking you're thinking, F&C'77, then I think she is, but I don't think she knows it. If there's one thing that will slip by her, it would be that.

Anyways...

I know we've discussed Kim being right-handed, left-handed, or ambidextrous, but what about Shego? My theory is that she is either left-handed or ambidextrous, but I'd need more evidence. I do know that in Graduation she picks Kim up on the ship and supports Kim's weight through the air with her left hand, but that could just mean her left is stronger, not dominant. That's how it is with my mom and me.

[NinjaNaco]

A thought about Graduation occured to me a while ago - as KP's main premise is that Kim has to both manage "normal" life and saving the world, it seemed fitting that, as a two-parter, "Graduation" had its first half emphasize the "normal" aspect of Kim's life (most of part 1 focused on the high school graduation), while the second half emphasized the save-the-world aspect (part 2 focus on the invasion).

Also, a day or so ago I decided to play the Flores family of my Sims 2 Middleton. Interestingly enough, while Tara, Teresa and Juan (the latter two - Zita's kid biological siblings) all brought home homework, Zita apparently didn't have any (and believe me, I looked!) Both Tara and Zita have the Family aspiration, and I've locked one of their Hopes is to have the Very First Kiss. Unfortunately, they really haven't met any potential boyfriends. Now, should I insert myself into the Sims 2 neighborhood or... ;)

Also, Pablo (the baby/toddler in the family) is one day away from going from Toddler to Child, and I'm worried, because unless his mood improves, he won't "grow up" well. He's walking and talking, but still needs a diaper. (Of course, the way the Sims does growing up, your toddler will automatically be able to walk, talk, and control his bodily functions upon becoming a "Child," even if he wasn't taught these things as a tot. ;) )

And Kim and Ron haven't even met yet. :unsure:

Also, has anyone besides me noticed that Toon Disney's listings (at least what they give Time Warner Cable) are sort of, um, not in line with what actually airs. Given the rare time I can see a full KP episode these days, yesterday (or the day before, I think) I thought I was going to see "Mentor of Our Discontent," but what aired was "Clean Slate." I enjoyed the episode anyway. :P

[Ace Ian Combat]

A thought about Graduation occured to me a while ago - as KP's main premise is that Kim has to both manage "normal" life and saving the world, it seemed fitting that, as a two-parter, "Graduation" had its first half emphasize the "normal" aspect of Kim's life (most of part 1 focused on the high school graduation), while the second half emphasized the save-the-world aspect (part 2 focus on the invasion).

Also, a day or so ago I decided to play the Flores family of my Sims 2 Middleton. Interestingly enough, while Tara, Teresa and Juan (the latter two - Zita's kid biological siblings) all brought home homework, Zita apparently didn't have any (and believe me, I looked!) Both Tara and Zita have the Family aspiration, and I've locked one of their Hopes is to have the Very First Kiss. Unfortunately, they really haven't met any potential boyfriends. Now, should I insert myself into the Sims 2 neighborhood or... ;)

Also, Pablo (the baby/toddler in the family) is one day away from going from Toddler to Child, and I'm worried, because unless his mood improves, he won't "grow up" well. He's walking and talking, but still needs a diaper. (Of course, the way the Sims does growing up, your toddler will automatically be able to walk, talk, and control his bodily functions upon becoming a "Child," even if he wasn't taught these things as a tot. ;) )

And Kim and Ron haven't even met yet. :unsure:

Also, has anyone besides me noticed that Toon Disney's listings (at least what they give Time Warner Cable) are sort of, um, not in line with what actually airs. Given the rare time I can see a full KP episode these days, yesterday (or the day before, I think) I thought I was going to see "Mentor of Our Discontent," but what aired was "Clean Slate." I enjoyed the episode anyway. :P

That sounds very interesting. Maybe I need to get me a Sims game. Kim and Ron haven't met yet? What age are they in your game?

[NinjaNaco]

They're both teenagers.

[Fireand'chutes77]

I fear I'm in the process of making too-hasty assumptions.... :unsure:

FnC, what perplexes you and causes you to make assumptions? What have I missed here, of is it the old man who's not awake enough to catch some subtler message?

It might perhaps be an age related phenomenon.:P:rolleyes:
I think 'chutes may have assumed AIC's friend Bladed Darkness was a male instead of a female...
Um, not that... I've sent you a PM explaining.

(This has gotten a lot more entangled than I'd expected...)

PM received and read; reply has been sent.
(And your PM blew my theory here all to shreds...)

The funny thing is if you're thinking what I'm thinking you're thinking, F&C'77, then I think she is, but I don't think she knows it. If there's one thing that will slip by her, it would be that.

Anyways...
Yay for obliqueness! :alumnus: :laugh:

So if I'm thinking what you're thinking I'm thinking I'm thinking.... Whoa... brain pain... :confused:

I'm surprised that I was actually right... I'd assumed it was just the hormones talking...

I know we've discussed Kim being right-handed, left-handed, or ambidextrous, but what about Shego? My theory is that she is either left-handed or ambidextrous, but I'd need more evidence. I do know that in Graduation she picks Kim up on the ship and supports Kim's weight through the air with her left hand, but that could just mean her left is stronger, not dominant.
I can see Shego pumping out 40 pushups Marine-style with her right arm, snapping into the air for a "clap," coming down on her left arm, and nonchalantly belting out 40 more. :cool:

[Fireand'chutes77]

Sorry for the DP.

Today in Spanish II, I picked up (possibly) on a really cool second-meaning to the "Centurion Project."

Most likely, the CP was named after the martial term "centurion," which was an officer in the Roman army commanding a 100 troops. (The CP could've given one soldier the strength of a 100).
However, today in Spanish class, we began studying about getting ready for "un evento especial." One of the objects was a belt... and the label pointing to it said cinturón. Loosely interpreted, cinturón could mean a belt... or even a bracelet... :hmm: :D

[NinjaNaco]

Just thinking...

I don't know if anyone here still goes to Middleton High Auditorium, but there was some discussion about "Graduation." I seemed to be in the minority there in not hating said finale, which comicGenious said was "more or less terrible." (No offense to him or anything.)

On another note, I watched Bueno Nacho on iTunes yesterday, and wonder how Kim is able to keep on those oversize pants sans a belt...

(Rats! Time is so short right now!)

[NinjaNaco]

Well, here (http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=2052)'s the forum I mentioned in my previous post, in case anyone wants to see it.

Also, a question has occurred to me that I haven't gotten around to mentioning: where are the Dr. Possibles' wedding rings? In all the screencaps of the two I've never seen any gold around their fingers, if you know what I mean.

The "reality" answer would probably that the animators forgot/didn't bother to put them in, while the "in-universe" answer may be that James accidently cloaked them or something...

[kyojikasshu]

It seems that someone's knocked out that forum... either that, or a firewall's blocking it. Although, I can still get to the GJA without doing anything to the firewall...

As far as the rings go... well, my brother-in-law and sister don't wear their rings a lot, usually only when they go out. My parents don't wear their rings, either. They're not always practical; I could see where the Drs. Possible would not want their fingers to be encumbered while working on their rather delicate operations.

Watching "Go Team Go" again the other day, I noted that I'm always amused by a few things in particular. One thing that comes to mind is Ron's comment about the Flamingo of Doom, a reference to Maxwell Smart ("That's the second biggest flamingo I've ever seen!"); another, though, is when Kim and Shego team up to defeat said flamingo, and they perform the Fastball Special, a move that originated with Colossus and Wolverine of the X-Men.

[GoTeamGirl]

Sorry for the DP.

Today in Spanish II, I picked up (possibly) on a really cool second-meaning to the "Centurion Project."

Most likely, the CP was named after the martial term "centurion," which was an officer in the Roman army commanding a 100 troops. (The CP could've given one soldier the strength of a 100).
However, today in Spanish class, we began studying about getting ready for "un evento especial." One of the objects was a belt... and the label pointing to it said cinturón. Loosely interpreted, cinturón could mean a belt... or even a bracelet... :hmm: :D

I think I learned that word last year as bracelet. I'd have to check up about that. However, I see what you mean about the Centurion Project, since it started out as a bracelet.

[jeriddian]

Well, here (http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=2052)'s the forum I mentioned in my previous post, in case anyone wants to see it.

Also, a question has occurred to me that I haven't gotten around to mentioning: where are the Dr. Possibles' wedding rings? In all the screencaps of the two I've never seen any gold around their fingers, if you know what I mean.

The "reality" answer would probably that the animators forgot/didn't bother to put them in, while the "in-universe" answer may be that James accidently cloaked them or something...

Well......that forum's moderator was rather dark about his thoughts on the finale, wasn't he? In a way, I don't contest them as I agree with several of his points. He is obviously a connossier of the writing of the show, which makes perfect sense since the writing is definitely one of KP's greatest assets. But it also clear that he is rather anti-'ship (In fact, that seems to be the case in general with MHA). I don't see that having the 'ship should be a problem with the show myself, even at the end of the series. I thought the finale was excellent also. he takes the KP team to task for the villain they used in the end, which seems to me to be rather picky, really. Which villain they used, at least to me, would not have been all that important. He seemed to think Drakken should have been the best nemesis for the finale, but that his "best" was already used up in StD. But I disagree with that as well, especially if one reads my 'Resolution' Fan Fic.

and you know, you're right. I don't remember ever seeing any wedding bands on the fingers of Kim's parents either.:hmm::blink:

Sorry for the DP.

Today in Spanish II, I picked up (possibly) on a really cool second-meaning to the "Centurion Project."

Most likely, the CP was named after the martial term "centurion," which was an officer in the Roman army commanding a 100 troops. (The CP could've given one soldier the strength of a 100).
However, today in Spanish class, we began studying about getting ready for "un evento especial." One of the objects was a belt... and the label pointing to it said cinturón. Loosely interpreted, cinturón could mean a belt... or even a bracelet... :hmm: :D

I think I learned that word last year as bracelet. I'd have to check up about that. However, I see what you mean about the Centurion Project, since it started out as a bracelet.

Actually "Centurion" is from the Latin, indicating the commander of a "Centuria", a company of 100 men in the Roman army (more or less, the number varied). The term comes from the latin word "centum" which means one hundred. You can see the descendant words for this in the Spanish "cien" and the English use in "per cent" and the prefix "centi".

"Cinturon" actually is not related to "centurion", but comes from a different word describing an encircling or a belt.

[Fireand'chutes77]

Well, here (http://s2.excoboard.com/exco/index.php?boardid=2052)'s the forum I mentioned in my previous post, in case anyone wants to see it.

Also, a question has occurred to me that I haven't gotten around to mentioning: where are the Dr. Possibles' wedding rings? In all the screencaps of the two I've never seen any gold around their fingers, if you know what I mean.

The "reality" answer would probably that the animators forgot/didn't bother to put them in, while the "in-universe" answer may be that James accidently cloaked them or something...

Well......that forum's moderator was rather dark about his thoughts on the finale, wasn't he? In a way, I don't contest them as I agree with several of his points. He is obviously a connossier of the writing of the show, which makes perfect sense since the writing is definitely one of KP's greatest assets. But it also clear that he is rather anti-'ship (In fact, that seems to be the case in general with MHA). I don't see that having the 'ship should be a problem with the show myself, even at the end of the series. I thought the finale was excellent also. he takes the KP team to task for the villain they sued in the end, which seems to me to be rather picky, really. Which villain they used, at least to me, would not have been that important. He seemed to think Drakken shoudl have been the best nemesis for the finale, but that his "best" was already used up in StD. But I disagree with that as well, especially if one reads my Fan Fic.

Sorry for the DP.

Today in Spanish II, I picked up (possibly) on a really cool second-meaning to the "Centurion Project."

Most likely, the CP was named after the martial term "centurion," which was an officer in the Roman army commanding a 100 troops. (The CP could've given one soldier the strength of a 100).
However, today in Spanish class, we began studying about getting ready for "un evento especial." One of the objects was a belt... and the label pointing to it said cinturón. Loosely interpreted, cinturón could mean a belt... or even a bracelet... :hmm: :D

I think I learned that word last year as bracelet. I'd have to check up about that. However, I see what you mean about the Centurion Project, since it started out as a bracelet.

Actually "Centurion" is from the Latin, indicating the commander of a "Centuria", a company of 100 men in the Roman army (more or less, the number varied)....
"Cinturon" actually is not related to "centurion", but comes from a different word describing an encircling or a belt.
I think GTG was referring to the Spanish word, not "centurion."
And, yes, while [I]cinturón and centurion aren't root-word related, it is interesting how close they sound phonetically, and the fact that cinturón means belt/bracelet, which is what the Centurion Project was in its dormant form.

[Ultimate Naco Topping]

*Pokes head into thread*

Anyone here know the name of the temple Monkey Fist summoned Yono from? I'm writing a fic that mentions it and it's bugging the life out of me...

[jeriddian]

*Pokes head into thread*

Anyone here know the name of the temple Monkey Fist summoned Yono from? I'm writing a fic that mentions it and it's bugging the life out of me...

It's called the Dark Temple of the Yono. It's located in the Simian Canyon.:alumnus:

[NinjaNaco]

Ah, how I long for Kim to be a Catholic... :)Could be. I still say she's part Italian. The way I see it, sometime around 1900 young Timoteo Posabigliano, emigrant from a tiny Sicilian village, arrives at Ellis Island where a clerk changes him into Timothy Possible, and the rest is history ...

I was thinking about that, and if the fact that there was a Col. Zim Possible (I think) during the Revolutionary War might contradict that theory.

Then I realized that since a number of foreigners worked in the Continental Army (Thaddeus Kościuszko, Johann de Kolb, the Marquis de Lafayette, von Stueben), it's not implausible for a Sicilian to have worked for Washington, then gone back to the homeland, and then the family falls on hard times so much that a century or so later one of Zim's descendants decides to cross the Atlantic...

[Ultimate Naco Topping]

*Pokes head into thread*

Anyone here know the name of the temple Monkey Fist summoned Yono from? I'm writing a fic that mentions it and it's bugging the life out of me...

It's called the Dark Temple of the Yono. It's located in the Simian Canyon.:alumnus:

Thanks for the quick response! :thumbup:

[Fireand'chutes77]

Watching "Bueno Nacho" on iTunes, I noticed something I never had before. As Drakken shouts, "....Activate the magmachine!" Ron trades a worried glance with (an offscreen) Kim.

That's
A.) Crazy attention to detail, considering that Ron is on the far left of the scene, not the center of attention, and he's trading a (presumably mutal) glance with a character not even on the screen.

B.) Amazingly intutitve and naturally realistic.

Dang, this show has replay value! :D


(If the "push the button Rufus" scene is any indication, however, it appears that Rufus has a different gravitational constant from everyone else. :P)

[jeriddian]

Watching "Bueno Nacho" on iTunes, I noticed something I never had before. As Drakken shouts, "....Activate the magmachine!" Ron trades a worried glance with (an offscreen) Kim.

That's
A.) Crazy attention to detail, considering that Ron is on the far left of the scene, not the center of attention, and he's trading a (presumably mutal) glance with a character not even on the screen.

B.) Amazingly intutitve and naturally realistic.

Dang, this show has replay value! :D

Absolutely!;)


(If the "push the button Rufus" scene is any indication, however, it appears that Rufus has a different gravitational constant from everyone else. :P)

The Rule of Cool has its own definition of the Gravitational Constant of the Universe.:biggergrin:

[lunchmeat]

I've done a couple of things where the wearing of rings (and pretty much any jewelry) was banned. Military parachute jumping is replete with stories about peole wearing rings and making jumps wherein the ring (and finger) stayed in the plane when the ring got caught on the door frame while the jumper continued on their way. We once instituted a ban after one individual arc welded himself to an equipment cabinet after his wedding band touched a capacitor for a rather powerful radar. Many labs that perform analytic work ban jewelry of all types (the Alvarez' had to repeat a lot of their irridium work on the Cretaceous/Tertiary boundary when they realised that many of the lab technicians wore gold rings that are hardened with irridium).

I can imagine the Possible parents avoiding rings due to their professions (I've never worn jewelry, myself, for a wide variety of reasons, including work related things), or maybe they're just old hippies and don't believe in that sort of thing.

[NinjaNaco]

Well, I can't see the Possibles as hippies, either in ideology or age (they were college-age in the '80s)

On the other hand, can you see any responsible dad wishing his daughter to be out late at night with some boy? ;)

[NinjaNaco]

Saw the last half of "Graduation, part 2" and all of "Bonding" today.

Has anyone noticed that there always seems to be constant action during an exposition scene? Kim and Ron are attacked by the aliens when they discuss their college futures and such in "Graduation," Rufus tries to tie Ron's bowtie while said Stoppable angsts about Kim in "So the Drama," and Kim fights a supersuited Ron (against his will, of course) while the two discuss their relationship issues in "Ill-Suited."

I'm just wondering if I should ask, like Prof. Dementor, "[a]m I the only one who notices these things?"

(And, on another point, that part of Ill-Suited is one of my favorites.)

[lunchmeat]

Well, I can't see the Possibles as hippies, either in ideology or age (they were college-age in the '80s)

On the other hand, can you see any responsible dad wishing his daughter to be out late at night with some boy? ;)


Weirdly enough one of the biggest hippies amongst my associates from undergraduate studies is now a colonel in the Marines.

[TransWarpDrive]

I just dozed off while watching the KP ep "The Big Job." Man, I just hate it when that happens... :angry:

[jeriddian]

Saw the last half of "Graduation, part 2" and all of "Bonding" today.

Has anyone noticed that there always seems to be constant action during an exposition scene? Kim and Ron are attacked by the aliens when they discuss their college futures and such in "Graduation," Rufus tries to tie Ron's bowtie while said Stoppable angsts about Kim in "So the Drama," and Kim fights a supersuited Ron (against his will, of course) while the two discuss their relationship issues in "Ill-Suited."

I'm just wondering if I should ask, like Prof. Dementor, "[a]m I the only one who notices these things?"

(And, on another point, that part of Ill-Suited is one of my favorites.)

I have noticed that, and I think that Loter and company did those things on purpose. As to the quote "Am I the only one who notices these things?", I think Ron actually said more often.:rolleyes:

[NinjaNaco]

I have noticed that, and I think that Loter and company did those things on purpose.
True. My theory is that Loter and co. don't want to bore the kids during the necessary exposition scenes, and thus...

Anyway, I was looking at ToonZone.net just a bit earlier (I rarely go there anymore) and noticed some people wondered if Hana is a Mary Sue. Doe you think she is?

[jeriddian]

I have noticed that, and I think that Loter and company did those things on purpose.
True. My theory is that Loter and co. don't want to bore the kids during the necessary exposition scenes, and thus...

Anyway, I was looking at ToonZone.net just a bit earlier (I rarely go there anymore) and noticed some people wondered if Hana is a Mary Sue. Doe you think she is?

Good question. We actually had a thread addressing that though not Hana specifically. She certainly does seem to fit the criteria.:hmm:

http://www.globaljusticealliance.com/board/showthread.php?t=265&highlight=Mary

[cpneb]

I copied this from a general discussion thread to respond to it here....

I'm watching a rerun of "Graduation, Part One" on DC. Funny; I was just thinking about this episode today at work.
- Although I wish they wouldn't run it so often; I'd love to see some of the early S4 episodes again. Plus, I just hate the scene where the Lorwardian probe destroys the Possible house (that always bothers me)... :unsure:

TWD, thanks for reminding me of this.

I've watched that scene every time carefully every time that "Graduation, Part One" has come on, and my feelings and thought have expanded to incude the ideas below. I thought I'd share these with y'all in case some are having the same or similar reactions:

Wow, the Lowardians were trying to kill everyone associated with Kim!

Wow, someone else has GPS technology.

Is this Bob, Mark, and Steve's way of telling Disney what they think of Disney's idea of killing the series?

Is this Bob, Mark, and Steve's way of telling fans that Kim's future, and that of her family, is no longer set in Middleton but elsewhere?

Is this Bob, Mark, and Steve's way of telling FanFic writers that they have the power for the future development of Kim and family?

The opening of 'Part Two,", with the 'death' of Pandaroo, is huge symbolism, worthy of anything from major literature, IMHO.

[lunchmeat]

I posed a question about Pandaroo on the chat session and was essentially told that it was suppossed to be a gag and not read anything into it. I sometimes think maybe I've read, and had courses in, a bit too much literature.

[cpneb]

I posed a question about Pandaroo on the chat session and was essentially told that it was suppossed to be a gag and not read anything into it. I sometimes think maybe I've read, and had courses in, a bit too much literature.

I'd buy that line, lunchmeat, if it wasn't for the fact that I can't see anything in KP that was a gag....
That may be the 'official' line, but I somehow suspect that someone had some fun with this one, just like Duff's line about Ron going 'all William Wallace.'

IMHO, of course....

[GoTeamGirl]

I posed a question about Pandaroo on the chat session and was essentially told that it was suppossed to be a gag and not read anything into it. I sometimes think maybe I've read, and had courses in, a bit too much literature.

I read into it as well. I think that it was a bit of unconscious symbolism on their part. :):P

[TransWarpDrive]

IIRC,during the chat session, they made a comment to the effect that the destruction of the Possible house, the "death" of Pandaroo, and the smashing of Ron's scooter all represented the end of the series, and that's all they were supposed to mean. They're just scenes the artists put in there to convey a sense of finality to the show - a way to symbolically "walk away" from it once and for all.
At least, that's how I interpreted their comment.
EDIT: Besides, some gags (inside jokes) that are inserted into TV shows or movies are things that only the filmmakers and their associates would understand. Perhaps the Pandaroo scenes, and the others we've mentioned, were intended as such.

[TransWarpDrive]

Here's some KP cast news:
I just found out that Nestor Carbonell, who voiced Senor Senior Jr. on KP, will play the mayor of Gotham City in the next Batman film, "The Dark Knight," due out next summer!
Interesting, no? :D

[jeriddian]

Here's some KP cast news:
I just found out that Nestor Carbonell, who voiced Senor Senior Jr. on KP, will play the mayor of Gotham City in the next Batman film, "The Dark Knight," due out next summer!
Interesting, no? :D

Cool! Junior's moving up in the world!:laugh:

[TransWarpDrive]

Here's some KP cast news:
I just found out that Nestor Carbonell, who voiced Senor Senior Jr. on KP, will play the mayor of Gotham City in the next Batman film, "The Dark Knight," due out next summer!
Interesting, no? :D

Cool! Junior's moving up in the world!:laugh:
As long as he doesn't use that same high-pitched, squeaky voice... :P
:laugh:

[NinjaNaco]

Having caught AVPC last Friday, I was thinking about it and thought how it might segue into why Drakken might go back into the world-domination business:

"But then, when I saw that Snowman Hank was pre-empted by Xtreme Xmas again" and/or "You can be sure Hank would be spreading the joy of friends, family and turning bad guys good if I held the world in my iron grip..."

:)

[Ace Ian Combat]

I spent yesterday and today afternoon working on making a K.P. music video since I finally found a way to do that on my computer, and got ready to upload it to my YouTube account, only to find it's too big. Groan... And of course that's the only format the program I used has that YouTube will accept. :wallbash: It's not even a minute and a half long since the program also reads time wrong and cut the song. I think I'm going to slap myself. :dubiety:

[jeriddian]

I spent yesterday and today afternoon working on making a K.P. music video since I finally found a way to do that on my computer, and got ready to upload it to my YouTube account, only to find it's too big. Groan... And of course that's the only format the program I used has that YouTube will accept. :wallbash: It's not even a minute and a half long since the program also reads time wrong and cut the song. I think I'm going to slap myself. :dubiety:

Your video is only a minute and a half long? I've seen videos on You Tube longer than that. What format are you using?

[Ace Ian Combat]

I spent yesterday and today afternoon working on making a K.P. music video since I finally found a way to do that on my computer, and got ready to upload it to my YouTube account, only to find it's too big. Groan... And of course that's the only format the program I used has that YouTube will accept. :wallbash: It's not even a minute and a half long since the program also reads time wrong and cut the song. I think I'm going to slap myself. :dubiety:

Your video is only a minute and a half long? I've seen videos on You Tube longer than that. What format are you using?

It's AVI. I tried to put it in MPEG format, but it won't let me, and keeps saying error. :thumbdown:

[jeriddian]

I spent yesterday and today afternoon working on making a K.P. music video since I finally found a way to do that on my computer, and got ready to upload it to my YouTube account, only to find it's too big. Groan... And of course that's the only format the program I used has that YouTube will accept. :wallbash: It's not even a minute and a half long since the program also reads time wrong and cut the song. I think I'm going to slap myself. :dubiety:

Your video is only a minute and a half long? I've seen videos on You Tube longer than that. What format are you using?

It's AVI. I tried to put it in MPEG format, but it won't let me, and keeps saying error. :thumbdown:

You might not have the codecs for MPEG installed on your computer which woudl allow your program to convert it. I assume you are using Windows Movie Maker.

[Ace Ian Combat]

I spent yesterday and today afternoon working on making a K.P. music video since I finally found a way to do that on my computer, and got ready to upload it to my YouTube account, only to find it's too big. Groan... And of course that's the only format the program I used has that YouTube will accept. :wallbash: It's not even a minute and a half long since the program also reads time wrong and cut the song. I think I'm going to slap myself. :dubiety:

Your video is only a minute and a half long? I've seen videos on You Tube longer than that. What format are you using?

It's AVI. I tried to put it in MPEG format, but it won't let me, and keeps saying error. :thumbdown:

You might not have the codecs for MPEG installed on your computer which woudl allow your program to convert it. I assume you are using Windows Movie Maker.

No, mine is one of the few computers still in use that does not have Windows Movie Maker. I actually used Pinnacle Studio 9.4.

[jeriddian]

I spent yesterday and today afternoon working on making a K.P. music video since I finally found a way to do that on my computer, and got ready to upload it to my YouTube account, only to find it's too big. Groan... And of course that's the only format the program I used has that YouTube will accept. :wallbash: It's not even a minute and a half long since the program also reads time wrong and cut the song. I think I'm going to slap myself. :dubiety:

Your video is only a minute and a half long? I've seen videos on You Tube longer than that. What format are you using?

It's AVI. I tried to put it in MPEG format, but it won't let me, and keeps saying error. :thumbdown:

You might not have the codecs for MPEG installed on your computer which woudl allow your program to convert it. I assume you are using Windows Movie Maker.

No, mine is one of the few computers still in use that does not have Windows Movie Maker. I actually used Pinnacle Studio 9.4.

I have Pinnacle Studio 11.0. The issue could still be then that you don't have the MPEG codecs installed on your system.

[Ace Ian Combat]

I have Pinnacle Studio 11.0. The issue could still be then that you don't have the MPEG codecs installed on your system.

That's probably it then.

[NinjaNaco]

Reading a profound blog post on the Beauty Contest method of choosing sides (http://johncwright.livejournal.com/136838.html), I wondered how the KP universe fares in this test.

Pretty well, it seems. Sure, the forces of evil and villany have Shego, but some guys (like me) are turned off by the whole Goth thing, and she gets courted by so many bad men and/or violently rejects dates until the only guy she can wind up with is a middle-aged blue guy who's only suceeded once in his life. There's also Electronique, of course, but electric wires for hair tends to be a turn-off for me.

On the side of goodness, however, you've got Kim and her mom, Zita Flores, Monique, Dr. Director, Vivian Porter, Yori, Miss Kyoko, Tara, (arguably) the whole cheer squad ... the list goes on. (Even Bonnie might be included here- true, she's a selfish you-know-what who corrupted the Homecoming vote and is now dating the son of/a villain, but she did fight against Dementor in "Bonding." True, she didn't really have a choice, but still...)

Just thought I'd share that with you. :)

[lunchmeat]

I'm quite charmed by the Miss go variant, but realistically (am I actually applying that term to a work of fiction? Well, carry on) Vivian Porter is probably a better bet, we're in similar lines of work and she's in the same age bracket as many of my colleagues.

[Fireand'chutes77]

Reading a profound blog post on the Beauty Contest method of choosing sides (http://johncwright.livejournal.com/136838.html), I wondered how the KP universe fares in this test.

Pretty well, it seems. Sure, the forces of evil and villany have Shego, but some guys (like me) are turned off by the whole Goth thing...

On the side of goodness, however, you've got Kim and her mom, Zita Flores, Monique, Dr. Director, Vivian Porter, Yori, Miss Kyoko, Tara, (arguably) the whole cheer squad ... the list goes on....
One question....

http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/1694/pdvd977er1.jpg

Where's the nearest soulless worker drone recruitment station? :biggergrin: ;)

[TransWarpDrive]

I'm quite charmed by the Miss go variant, but realistically (am I actually applying that term to a work of fiction? Well, carry on) Vivian Porter is probably a better bet, we're in similar lines of work and she's in the same age bracket as many of my colleagues.
Agreed. Although Dr. Director isn't so bad either, eyepatch notwithstanding. After all, one-eyed women need love too! :laugh:

[Ace Ian Combat]

I'm quite charmed by the Miss go variant, but realistically (am I actually applying that term to a work of fiction? Well, carry on) Vivian Porter is probably a better bet, we're in similar lines of work and she's in the same age bracket as many of my colleagues.
Agreed. Although Dr. Director isn't so bad either, eyepatch notwithstanding. After all, one-eyed women need love too! :laugh:

So, nobody's going to join DNAmy in gene-splicing because of her charming beauty? Ms. Hatchet will be alone in the library for the rest of her jaw-dropping years of radiance?
The cafeteria lady will serve mystery meat solitarily in her own gorgeous way?
Electronique with her 'shocking' looker qualities shall live in isolated loneliness?

I'm scaring people, not to mention myself. :blink:

[TransWarpDrive]

I'm quite charmed by the Miss go variant, but realistically (am I actually applying that term to a work of fiction? Well, carry on) Vivian Porter is probably a better bet, we're in similar lines of work and she's in the same age bracket as many of my colleagues.
Agreed. Although Dr. Director isn't so bad either, eyepatch notwithstanding. After all, one-eyed women need love too! :laugh:

So, nobody's going to join DNAmy in gene-splicing because of her charming beauty? Ms. Hatchet will be alone in the library for the rest of her jaw-dropping years of radiance?
The cafeteria lady will serve mystery meat solitarily in her own gorgeous way?
Electronique with her 'shocking' looker qualities shall live in isolated loneliness?

I'm scaring people, not to mention myself. :blink:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

[Ace Ian Combat]

So, nobody's going to join DNAmy in gene-splicing because of her charming beauty? Ms. Hatchet will be alone in the library for the rest of her jaw-dropping years of radiance?
The cafeteria lady will serve mystery meat solitarily in her own gorgeous way?
Electronique with her 'shocking' looker qualities shall live in isolated loneliness?

I'm scaring people, not to mention myself. :blink:

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Now I'm being laughed at... oh the indignity...

Personally I think Roachie is quite the hottie. :innocent:;)

We need a funniest quotes section. I liked that thread at ARA, and it was, of course, hilarious to read.

[Fireand'chutes77]

Just finished watching my taping of "AVPC." Goodness, that episode is a good one. :) The animation rocks, too.

As long as I've got tapes and iTunes (I wish they'd come out with S2 already, though), Kim Possible will continue to play in the little TV in my heart. :)

[Ace Ian Combat]

Just finished watching my taping of "AVPC." Goodness, that episode is a good one. :) The animation rocks, too.

As long as I've got tapes and iTunes (I wish they'd come out with S2 already, though), Kim Possible will continue to play in the little TV in my heart. :)

My family loves that episode as well (my dad loves to point out Drakken saved Ron from the polar bear).

I got an iPod for Christmas, but it doesn't have video ( unless I'm missing something since it's a Shuffle), so I can't watch K.P. on it, which is sad.

[NinjaNaco]

I've downloaded AVPC via iTunes.

Just an update on my Sims 2 KP people...

I recently got the University expansion for said game, and decided to put some college-bound KP characters in, well, college. (This university is in a different neighborhood, and thus an "alternate universe" from my normal "Middleton.")

Here's the "KP" Household:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/Syskeyia/kp_college_crew.jpg
You can see Linda (the freckled girl who wears blue on the show), Kim, Felix, Ron (sorry about the hair - it's hard finding a hairdo close to Ron's in the game), Monique, and Zita.

(A thing about Linda's hair. Apparently the hairstyle closest to her canon 'do - the same style Mrs. Dr. P has, incidentially - doesn't exist until a Sim is an Adult. So, I gave Linda the right hairdo as an adult, changed her age of teen, and had her enroll in college. By virtue of going to college, she became a Young Adult and therefore got the right hair. For one session. When I loaded the Household up again, she had the "generic" hair (part down the middle, straight down at the sides). I gave her a more Linda-esque hair, but it's still not as close as the style in the above pic.

Using SimPE, I gave Kim and Ron their canon-appropriate relationship (namely, their steady BF/GF) and though I thought I gave Felix and Zita crushes on each other, but apparently not. ??? I hope it doesn't count as cheating or something...

In other KP Sims news, in "normal" Middleton Zita and my self-insertion are engaged (even though "we" are still teens!) and hopefully "we" will get married soon after "growing up" into adult, and in Pleasantview, Joss and Wade are doing fine. Their daughter, Christina, has grown from a toddler into a kid, and for some reason she's got a darker skin color than either her mom and her dad (you'd think the offspring of a black man and a white woman would have light brown skin or something, but still...)

[Fireand'chutes77]

Zita's certainly... er, attractive. :blink: :innocent: :thumbup:

[NinjaNaco]

Saw "Hidden Talent" the other day (Disney's "Happy U Year" marathon), and noticed again that Ron didn't attend Kim's infamous Christmas pageant/concert thingy.

This adds credence to my theory that said event was a church event, as I can see the Stoppable parents not letting Ron go in fear that, given Ron's lack of religiosity (sure he was concerned about the whole 'Bar mitzvah/man" thing (until he got muscular), but he's on record as eating non-kosher food like pepperoni and bacon, and Moses and the prophets would definitely have something to say about his attitude toward cheating...), the boy might impulsively convert to Christianity or something.

Also, the fact that Bonnie was able to get ahold of a tape of the singing makes me think that's she probably went to the same church as Kim growing up (also, who were those other kids dressed as angels. I'm thinking they're younger versions of some of the MHS crowd, but I'm not sure...)

[campy]

who were those other kids dressed as angels. I'm thinking they're younger versions of some of the MHS crowd, but I'm not sure...)Hmmm, good question. Three of the little kids don't remind me of anyone from MHS. But maybe the girl on the left here:

http://caps.kpfanworld.com/images/39_Hidden_Talent/0241.jpg

became the girl on the left here:

http://caps.kpfanworld.com/images/39_Hidden_Talent/0066.jpg

[kyojikasshu]

Good catch, campy! There definitely is a resemblance...

Good-lookin' Sims, Double-N! Although I'm guessing they don't have a cybernetic wheelchair option... :laugh:

I haven't played The Sims since 2001. I *still* miss my customized Mihoshi and Kiyone, not to mention Sailor Jupiter... and I even had made Red Wings and Penguins jerseys for my own self-Sim to wear! (Back then, I was also working on custom teams for EA Sports' NHL 2001, so I was able to export uniform data from there to edit into The Sims.)

Sadly, all of that custom stuff was lost when my hard drive died back in June 2001. I didn't have a burner back then, so I couldn't back my data up... these, days, though, I do periodically back up my data onto CD-RWs.

... I haven't looked in ages, but I wonder if somebody's made any custom Sims skins featuring KP characters.

[jeriddian]

Saw "Hidden Talent" the other day (Disney's "Happy U Year" marathon), and noticed again that Ron didn't attend Kim's infamous Christmas pageant/concert thingy.

This adds credence to my theory that said event was a church event, as I can see the Stoppable parents not letting Ron go in fear that, given Ron's lack of religiosity (sure he was concerned about the whole 'Bar mitzvah/man" thing (until he got muscular), but he's on record as eating non-kosher food like pepperoni and bacon, and Moses and the prophets would definitely have something to say about his attitude toward cheating...), the boy might impulsively convert to Christianity or something.

Also, the fact that Bonnie was able to get hold of a tape of the singing makes me think that's she probably went to the same church as Kim growing up (also, who were those other kids dressed as angels. I'm thinking they're younger versions of some of the MHS crowd, but I'm not sure...)

Your theory is certainly viable, but I doubt the creators were thinking that deeply about it, to be honest. My guess is that you didn't see Ron at Kim's Christmas concert becasue there simply was no reason to put him in the shot. It would have been just that much more work by the KP team since they would have to use the full detailed model for a primary character in the scene. Also, the concert could just as well have been put on by her middle school, even in today's PC world.

What you speculate certainly is reasonable, but I always saw the Stoppables as Reform Jewish, therefore liberal in terms of their religiosity. I don't think they would have made a big deal out of Ron going to Kim's church, just as I don't think Kim's parents would have made a big deal if she wanted to visit his synagogue. After all, they didn't make much of a ruckus about Kim going to South America on a school night. :P

We do have to remember that Christmas is also celebrated as a secular holiday, and it could be that the Possibles don't go to church at all, although I would like to think they do.

Of course, Disney is not about to delve deeply into religious issues in their children's television shows, and I really think the only reason Ron was ever portrayed as Jewish was for the cultural value involved, not the religion. The cultural value used here was the Bar Mitzvah, which was used to indicate the rite of passage to manhood, and that was the point of making him Jewish, not to indicate he had a specific religion. Being Jewish is being part of that culture, not just following the religion, and I think that being part of the culture was the source from which the writers made that episode (Ron The Man), using it to reinforce Ron's assertion that he was now "The Man", thus the episode title. As you will note, there is no other canon reference to his Jewishness except during the Christmas episode, I believe.

Many non-religious Jews do not go to temple on a regular basis just as a lot of professed Christians don't go to church, and oftentimes, they never attend except to go through a rite in the synagogue such as the Bar Mitzvah or Bat Mitzvah, and/or a wedding.

That being said, I don't see Ron impulsively switching religion, even for Kim's sake. I am sincerely sure that Kim would not want him to do that just for her, but only for himself. Of course, being Reform Jewish, there is a variability of how much of the old laws and restrictions that are followed compared to the Orthodox, including dietary, and they have their reasons for that. Since I am not Jewish, that's the best I can say on the matter.

As to Bonnie getting hold of that tape. Since I'm sure she went to the same middle school as Kim, and that could reinforce the notion that this was a school event, not a church event, since she would just have to access the school's AV department for it. But your theory is just as viable for the church.

[campy]

Your theory is certainly viable, but I doubt the creators were thinking that deeply about it, to be honest. My guess is that you didn't see Ron at Kim's Christmas concert becasue there simply was no reason to put him in the shot. It would have been just that much more work by the KP team since they would have to use the full detailed model for a primary character in the scene. Also, the concert could just as well have been put on by her middle school, even in today's PC world.But if the event had been put on by Kim's school, Ron would likely have seen it—or at least heard about it if he'd been out of school that day, for illness (but what about the Stoppable Fortress of Immunity?) or any other reason.

The main reason Ron wasn't there is so he (and we) wouldn't know about Kim's high-note problems until she told him.

[jeriddian]

Your theory is certainly viable, but I doubt the creators were thinking that deeply about it, to be honest. My guess is that you didn't see Ron at Kim's Christmas concert becasue there simply was no reason to put him in the shot. It would have been just that much more work by the KP team since they would have to use the full detailed model for a primary character in the scene. Also, the concert could just as well have been put on by her middle school, even in today's PC world.But if the event had been put on by Kim's school, Ron would likely have seen it—or at least heard about it if he'd been out of school that day, for illness (but what about the Stoppable Fortress of Immunity?) or any other reason.

The main reason Ron wasn't there is so he (and we) wouldn't know about Kim's high-note problems until she told him.

Good point, Campy. I stand amended.:alumnus:

[Fireand'chutes77]

Also, the fact that Bonnie was able to get ahold of a tape of the singing makes me think that's she probably went to the same church as Kim growing up...
Seems like a bit of a leap, to me.

And.... this is Bonnie, 'member? She'll beg, borrow, steal, and/or seduce in order to get her hands on something to bring Kim down.

[TransWarpDrive]

Also, the fact that Bonnie was able to get ahold of a tape of the singing makes me think that's she probably went to the same church as Kim growing up...
Seems like a bit of a leap, to me.

And.... this is Bonnie, 'member? She'll beg, borrow, steal, and/or seduce in order to get her hands on something to bring Kim down.
How true; how true. When it comes to getting one over on Kim, there's no telling how low Bonnie will stoop. Around someone like her, you'd be wise to watch your back. :unsure:

[Ace Ian Combat]

Also, the fact that Bonnie was able to get ahold of a tape of the singing makes me think that's she probably went to the same church as Kim growing up...
Seems like a bit of a leap, to me.

And.... this is Bonnie, 'member? She'll beg, borrow, steal, and/or seduce in order to get her hands on something to bring Kim down.
How true; how true. When it comes to getting one over on Kim, there's no telling how low Bonnie will stoop. Around someone like her, you'd be wise to watch your back. :unsure:

Or else she'll end up stepping on it.:P:laugh:

[TransWarpDrive]

Also, the fact that Bonnie was able to get ahold of a tape of the singing makes me think that's she probably went to the same church as Kim growing up...
Seems like a bit of a leap, to me.

And.... this is Bonnie, 'member? She'll beg, borrow, steal, and/or seduce in order to get her hands on something to bring Kim down.
How true; how true. When it comes to getting one over on Kim, there's no telling how low Bonnie will stoop. Around someone like her, you'd be wise to watch your back. :unsure:

Or else she'll end up stepping on it.:P:laugh:
Or stabbing you in it! :P:laugh:

[TransWarpDrive]

Q. Why did Brick Flagg throw his alarm clock out the window?
A. He wanted to see time fly.

Ron: My grandmother just took a trip to the West Indies.
Kim: Jamaica?
Ron: No, it was strictly her own idea.

[GoTeamGirl]

Q. Why did Brick Flagg throw his alarm clock out the window?
A. He wanted to see time fly.

Ron: My grandmother just took a trip to the West Indies.
Kim: Jamaica?
Ron: No, it was strictly her own idea.

:laugh:

I can't see Ron converting to another religion either. Chances are, while saving the world and doing everything else, religious compatibility is not on Kim and Ron's top priorities list.

[Ace Ian Combat]

Q. Why did Brick Flagg throw his alarm clock out the window?
A. He wanted to see time fly.

Ron: My grandmother just took a trip to the West Indies.
Kim: Jamaica?
Ron: No, it was strictly her own idea.

:laugh:

I can't see Ron converting to another religion either. Chances are, while saving the world and doing everything else, religious compatibility is not on Kim and Ron's top priorities list.

Part of me doubts they even think of the differences, even during gift giving season.

[jeriddian]

Q. Why did Brick Flagg throw his alarm clock out the window?
A. He wanted to see time fly.

Ron: My grandmother just took a trip to the West Indies.
Kim: Jamaica?
Ron: No, it was strictly her own idea.

:laugh:

I can't see Ron converting to another religion either. Chances are, while saving the world and doing everything else, religious compatibility is not on Kim and Ron's top priorities list.

Part of me doubts they even think of the differences, even during gift giving season.

I agree, mostly because I believe they actually don't think of their faiths as being incompatible.:)

[TransWarpDrive]

Q. Why did Brick Flagg throw his alarm clock out the window?
A. He wanted to see time fly.

Ron: My grandmother just took a trip to the West Indies.
Kim: Jamaica?
Ron: No, it was strictly her own idea.

:laugh:

I can't see Ron converting to another religion either. Chances are, while saving the world and doing everything else, religious compatibility is not on Kim and Ron's top priorities list.

Part of me doubts they even think of the differences, even during gift giving season.

I agree, mostly because I believe they actually don't think of their faiths as being incompatible.:)

True; in fact, if they should get married and have children, I can see Kim and Ron celebrating the holidays of both religions in order to broaden their kids' cultural awareness.
- As well as to encourage them to take pride in their unique heritage...

[Fireand'chutes77]

I bought "So the Drama" off iTunes last evening.

[TGM, offstage: Noooooooooooo!]

The black widescreen bars are unfortunate, but the picture is a lot more vivid than on TV. After going through several of the best fight scenes, I decided to listen with headphones.

Very cool. :thumbup: Surround sound transforms the movie, most notably in the opening fighter jet scene. When Shego's modded F-18 roars across the screen, the sound follows it. Instinctively, your eyes track the sound, making the movie a lot more immersive.

[jeriddian]

Q. Why did Brick Flagg throw his alarm clock out the window?
A. He wanted to see time fly.

Ron: My grandmother just took a trip to the West Indies.
Kim: Jamaica?
Ron: No, it was strictly her own idea.

:laugh:

I can't see Ron converting to another religion either. Chances are, while saving the world and doing everything else, religious compatibility is not on Kim and Ron's top priorities list.

Part of me doubts they even think of the differences, even during gift giving season.

I agree, mostly because I believe they actually don't think of their faiths as being incompatible.:)

True; in fact, if they should get married and have children, I can see Kim and Ron celebrating the holidays of both religions in order to broaden their kids' cultural awareness.
- As well as to encourage them to take pride in their unique heritage...

Totally. I even alluded to it as much in my most recent Fan Fic.

[NinjaNaco]

I agree, mostly because I believe they actually don't think of their faiths as being incompatible.:)

Well, since Christianity does claim to be the fulfillment of Judaism (well, Christ being the fulfillment of Messianic prophecy), you're probably right. :)

Personally, I think that Kim and Ron's kids would be raised Christian (probably with knowledge of their Jewish heritage, though), as Kim's higher moral standards coupled with Ron's reputation for breaking kosher law (plus I don't think Moses and the prophets would think highly of his attitude toward cheating ;) ) lead me to conclude that Kim would probably have a deeper religious faith than Ron.

Though the difference in the depth to which Kim and Ron practice their faiths might lead to some interesting situations...

Kim and Ron's Kid: Daddy, we learned at Bible camp that in ancient Israel, bad Jews dated priestesses of Baal. [Not that they're going to tell the kids hat really happened] You're a bad Jew, did you ever date any priestesses of Baal?
Ron: I'm not a...
Kim: Eat bacon much?
Ron: Well, OK, yeah. But...
Kid: Bonnie was a priestess of Baal, wasn't she?

;)

(No offense to Jews intended. Except for the hypocritical ones and/or/including those who date priestesses of Baal. :P )

[MrDrP]

If Kim and Ron were to raise their kids in a faith tradition and we were to use what we saw on the series as a basis for predicting what that tradition would be, I'd have to give the nod to Judaism. After all, we've never seen Kim's family engage in any religious rituals while we've seen pictures of Ron during his bar mitzvah. Clearly, Ron's not Orthodox (he eats at BN, he doesn't wear a yarmulke, he's dating a non-Jew), but he could easily be Reformed. I'd think that Kim would be comfortable with this as long as the Stoppables visited Casa Possible for the annual Christmaspalooza and the all-important time with the family.

[NinjaNaco]

If Kim and Ron were to raise their kids in a faith tradition and we were to use what we saw on the series as a basis for predicting what that tradition would be, I'd have to give the nod to Judaism.
Well, we've never seen Kim practice religion one way or the other, but we probably wouldn't have seen Ron's religion had Mark and Bob not come up with the Bar Mitzvah idea for "Ron the Man." If Kim's a practicing Christian, than I don't think I can see her forsaking Christianity, or raising her children as non-Christians. If she's not, then they'd probably opt for being/raising the kids Jewish.

And I agree that they're Reformed Jewish. They go to a "Temple," but at least according to Orthodox Judaism, there hasn't been a Temple since 70 AD! :)

[GoTeamGirl]

They could just raise their kids knowing about both religions, then at a certain age (13, maybe?) have them decide which one they feel most comfortable with, and have the most faith in.

[jeriddian]

The reason. I believe, for the show even mentioning Ron's religion was as MrDrP noted, for the purpose of that particular episode ,"Ron the Man". There was no particular need to establish a religion for Ron per se. ( In fact television wisdom pretty much stands by its tried and true practice of avoiding mentioning two things in any way when you don't want any controversy in the show, which are religion and politics. This would especially be true in a children's animated show.) But it happens here that Ron is portrayed as Jewish only as an incidental canon fact because they wanted to use some sort of device to claim Ron had become a "Man", to fulfill the plot of the script. The Bar Mitzvah became a convenient tool for that purpose. His Jewishness is never mentioned or referred to anywhere else on the show. The writers didn't think any further than that.

Of course, we can extrapolate from canon in any way we wish to imagine it. Obviously, Ron's behaviors would only fit the Reformed branch of Judaism and still keep him in good stead with Rabbi Katz, I would think.

[TransWarpDrive]

Though the difference in the depth to which Kim and Ron practice their faiths might lead to some interesting situations...

Kim and Ron's Kid: Daddy, we learned at Bible camp that in ancient Israel, bad Jews dated priestesses of Baal. [Not that they're going to tell the kids hat really happened] You're a bad Jew, did you ever date any priestesses of Baal?
Ron: I'm not a...
Kim: Eat bacon much?
Ron: Well, OK, yeah. But...
Kid: Bonnie was a priestess of Baal, wasn't she?


:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
That explains a lot about Bonnie.... :P

[AinoMinako]

I came across this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4ever) Wikipedia article, and I'm wondering if anyone has any information/sources on the tie-in with "Emotion Sickness". I'm weary of trusting it, as Wikipedia isn't the best source of information. :errr:

[jeriddian]

I came across this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4ever) Wikipedia article, and I'm wondering if anyone has any information/sources on the tie-in with "Emotion Sickness". I'm weary of trusting it, as Wikipedia isn't the best source of information. :errr:

I actually found the song "4Ever" by the Veronicas and downloaded it, but it is the song that they released on their album that is not recorded for the KP episode. I was unable to find any adapted recording by them of this song for KP in any way, nor was I able to find the song Nicole Sullivan supposedly did as well. I don't believe either of those songs were ever put out publicly.

[rufus_forever]

The reason. I believe, for the show even mentioning Ron's religion was as MrDrP noted, for the purpose of that particular episode ,"Ron the Man". There was no particular need to establish a religion for Ron per se. ( In fact television wisdom pretty much stands by its tried and true practice of avoiding mentioning two things in any way when you don't want any controversy in the show, which are religion and politics. This would especially be true in a children's animated show.) But it happens here that Ron is portrayed as Jewish only as an incidental canon fact because they wanted to use some sort of device to claim Ron had become a "Man", to fulfill the plot of the script. The Bar Mitzvah became a convenient tool for that purpose. His Jewishness is never mentioned or referred to anywhere else on the show. The writers didn't think any further than that.

Of course, we can extrapolate from canon in any way we wish to imagine it. Obviously, Ron's behaviors would only fit the Reformed branch of Judaism and still keep him in good stead with Rabbi Katz, I would think.


Actually, it's ever-so-briefly referred to at the beginning of A Very Possible Christmas when Kim gives Ron his "memory disc" gift, where she wishes him a "Happy Hanukkah".

A Very Possible Christmas has a couple of other religious references.

You have to watch carefully, but in the skyline of the scene where Kim parachutes into London where one of the escape pods landed, there's a church just to the right of the pod in the shot where she touches down and another shot immediately after that.

Also, Kim's exclamation and facial expression after she emerges from the empty capsule in the desert could be interpreted as a prayer.

Disney's not shy about including religion or "spirituality" in its programming. There's loads of Eastern Mysticism in Kim Possible as well as ADJL. They made an entire movie dealing with a Jewish high school basketball team. And, of course, there's a considerable amount of magic, wizardry and witchcraft.

[campy]

Actually, it's ever-so-briefly referred to at the beginning of A Very Possible Christmas when Kim gives Ron his "memory disc" gift, where she wishes him a "Happy Hanukkah".This is a good point.

You have to watch carefully, but in the skyline of the scene where Kim parachutes into London where one of the escape pods landed, there's a church just to the right of the pod This is a stretch, IMO. I don't think I'd count a passing shot of a steepled building as a religious reference. There's a former church in my town which was renovated and sold to a business. I believe the building still has its steeple.

The full-screen view of Milan Cathedral in "Fashion Victim" comes closer, but I don't think I'd call that a religious reference either.

[jeriddian]

The reason. I believe, for the show even mentioning Ron's religion was as MrDrP noted, for the purpose of that particular episode ,"Ron the Man". There was no particular need to establish a religion for Ron per se. ( In fact television wisdom pretty much stands by its tried and true practice of avoiding mentioning two things in any way when you don't want any controversy in the show, which are religion and politics. This would especially be true in a children's animated show.) But it happens here that Ron is portrayed as Jewish only as an incidental canon fact because they wanted to use some sort of device to claim Ron had become a "Man", to fulfill the plot of the script. The Bar Mitzvah became a convenient tool for that purpose. His Jewishness is never mentioned or referred to anywhere else on the show. The writers didn't think any further than that.

Of course, we can extrapolate from canon in any way we wish to imagine it. Obviously, Ron's behaviors would only fit the Reformed branch of Judaism and still keep him in good stead with Rabbi Katz, I would think.


Actually, it's ever-so-briefly referred to at the beginning of A Very Possible Christmas when Kim gives Ron his "memory disc" gift, where she wishes him a "Happy Hanukkah".

My bad. I stand corrected.:P:o

A Very Possible Christmas has a couple of other religious references.

You have to watch carefully, but in the skyline of the scene where Kim parachutes into London where one of the escape pods landed, there's a church just to the right of the pod in the shot where she touches down and another shot immediately after that.

Also, Kim's exclamation and facial expression after she emerges from the empty capsule in the desert could be interpreted as a prayer.

Disney's not shy about including religion or "spirituality" in its programming. There's loads of Eastern Mysticism in Kim Possible as well as ADJL. They made an entire movie dealing with a Jewish high school basketball team. And, of course, there's a considerable amount of magic, wizardry and witchcraft.

Well, yes, but these are incidental references. Eastern mysticism can be mentioned becasue parents won't see it as a threat to their own religiousity and what they want their kids to see. It would be too foreign in nature, plus the way it's presented would be so generic that it would usually present concepts that are also present in the dominant religions of the audience. When I said that Disney would not put religiousity into their programming, I meant that they wouldn't put anything in that could possbly be construed as prosetylzing. Sure, they'll put the occasional reference like, "I'm going to church", or "Happy Hannukah" or "Merry Christmas", but nothing more threatening than that.

[TransWarpDrive]

The full-screen view of Milan Cathedral in "Fashion Victim" comes closer, but I don't think I'd call that a religious reference either.
Agreed. Especially since the Fashionistas were using that building as a "cover" for their underground lair, where they manufactured the knock-off clothing.

[Ace Ian Combat]

Agreed. Especially since the Fashionistas were using that building as a "cover" for their underground lair, where they manufactured the knock-off clothing.

I'm actually still confused how clothing can be 'knock-off'. Is it simply they did make the clothing not as durable for the same price?

[Twila Starla]

Agreed. Especially since the Fashionistas were using that building as a "cover" for their underground lair, where they manufactured the knock-off clothing.

I'm actually still confused how clothing can be 'knock-off'. Is it simply they did make the clothing as durable for the same price?

More like the clothing was the same, just more expensive in the knock-off brand, at least that's what I think.

[TransWarpDrive]

Agreed. Especially since the Fashionistas were using that building as a "cover" for their underground lair, where they manufactured the knock-off clothing.

I'm actually still confused how clothing can be 'knock-off'. Is it simply they did make the clothing as durable for the same price?

More like the clothing was the same, just more expensive in the knock-off brand, at least that's what I think.
Actually, knock-off clothing looks almost exactly like the real deal (except for the designer label), and they charge the same price for the copies as for the original. But the quality of the knock-offs isn't as good as the originals. Plus, the Fashionistas are taking someone else's designs and selling them for their own profit - so it's really two crimes: fashion theft (or idea theft); and consumer fraud.

[AinoMinako]

Agreed. Especially since the Fashionistas were using that building as a "cover" for their underground lair, where they manufactured the knock-off clothing.

I'm actually still confused how clothing can be 'knock-off'. Is it simply they did make the clothing as durable for the same price?

More like the clothing was the same, just more expensive in the knock-off brand, at least that's what I think.
Actually, knock-off clothing looks almost exactly like the real deal (except for the designer label), and they charge the same price for the copies as for the original. But the quality of the knock-offs isn't as good as the originals. Plus, the fact that the Fashionistas are taking someone else's designs and selling them for their own profit - so it's really two crimes: fashion theft (or idea theft); and consumer fraud.

TransWarpDrive is right, but it can also be used to refer to clothing/handbags/sunglasses/various other items that the consumer knows is a fake, but buys it for its similarity to the original at a discounted price.

[Ace Ian Combat]

I see. Thanks for clearing that up.:)

[Ace Ian Combat]

Warrior Women of Literature, Mythology, and Popular Culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_woman_warriors_in_legend_and_mythology)

Scroll down to the popular culture section. These two show up in the oddest places, I'm quite certain of that.:laugh:

[cpneb]

Warrior Women of Literature, Mythology, and Popular Culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_woman_warriors_in_legend_and_mythology)

Scroll down to the popular culture section. These two show up in the oddest places, I'm quite certain of that.:laugh:

Warrior women?

Where are you, Akinyi, Twila, and kt: I don't see your listings...:biggergrin::hmm:

[Ace Ian Combat]

Warrior Women of Literature, Mythology, and Popular Culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_woman_warriors_in_legend_and_mythology)

Scroll down to the popular culture section. These two show up in the oddest places, I'm quite certain of that.:laugh:

Warrior women?

Where are you, Akinyi, Twila, and kt: I don't see your listings...:biggergrin::hmm:

Well, I can't speak, er, post for the others, but I can safely say I'm not there because I am neither popular nor mentioned in literature.:laugh: As for mythology.. perhaps one of the few nice nicknames I've had is 'Artemis' however.:biggergrin:

[Twila Starla]

Warrior Women of Literature, Mythology, and Popular Culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_woman_warriors_in_legend_and_mythology)

Scroll down to the popular culture section. These two show up in the oddest places, I'm quite certain of that.:laugh:

Warrior women?

Where are you, Akinyi, Twila, and kt: I don't see your listings...:biggergrin::hmm:

LOL! That would explain why I've been referred to as "Huntress" before. :laugh: :cool:

[cpneb]

Warrior Women of Literature, Mythology, and Popular Culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_woman_warriors_in_legend_and_mythology)

Scroll down to the popular culture section. These two show up in the oddest places, I'm quite certain of that.:laugh:

Warrior women?

Where are you, Akinyi, Twila, and kt: I don't see your listings...:biggergrin::hmm:

LOL! That would explain why I've been referred to as "Huntress" before. :laugh: :cool:

Well, Twila, judging from the male following that you have in Ace Ian Combat's friends, it definitely does fit, as does the Huntress, as far as several of them are concerned (watching as Twila turns Kim-hair red from blushing).

I'm so glad I'm not that age anymore: I don't think I could go through the angst all over again: once was, most definitely, enough!

[Twila Starla]

Warrior Women of Literature, Mythology, and Popular Culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_woman_warriors_in_legend_and_mythology)

Scroll down to the popular culture section. These two show up in the oddest places, I'm quite certain of that.:laugh:

Warrior women?

Where are you, Akinyi, Twila, and kt: I don't see your listings...:biggergrin::hmm:

LOL! That would explain why I've been referred to as "Huntress" before. :laugh: :cool:

Well, Twila, judging from the male following that you have in Ace Ian Combat's friends, it definitely does fit, as does the Huntress, as far as several of them are concerned (watching as Twila turns Kim-hair red from blushing).

I'm so glad I'm not that age anymore: I don't think I could go through the angst all over again: once was, most definitely, enough!

*tries to force the blush off face*

Well, what can I say? Something about me is irresistable to guys. I can't help it. :P

(End of arrogent moment).

:rolleyes:

[Ace Ian Combat]

Warrior Women of Literature, Mythology, and Popular Culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_woman_warriors_in_legend_and_mythology)

Scroll down to the popular culture section. These two show up in the oddest places, I'm quite certain of that.:laugh:

Warrior women?

Where are you, Akinyi, Twila, and kt: I don't see your listings...:biggergrin::hmm:

LOL! That would explain why I've been referred to as "Huntress" before. :laugh: :cool:

Well, Twila, judging from the male following that you have in Ace Ian Combat's friends, it definitely does fit, as does the Huntress, as far as several of them are concerned (watching as Twila turns Kim-hair red from blushing).

I'm so glad I'm not that age anymore: I don't think I could go through the angst all over again: once was, most definitely, enough!

Meh, I've managed to avoid most of the angst by avoiding the urge to date; I've just never been interested in it and doubt I will be for a while. Besides, I'd want someone that I can carry a conversation with, an intelligent one, and I just can't do that with the guys around here. I end up having better luck getting a brick wall to understand what I'm saying.

@Twila: You wouldn't happen to be this Huntress, would you? :P Birds of Prey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_Prey_%28TV_series%29).

[Twila Starla]

Warrior Women of Literature, Mythology, and Popular Culture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_woman_warriors_in_legend_and_mythology)

Scroll down to the popular culture section. These two show up in the oddest places, I'm quite certain of that.:laugh:

Warrior women?

Where are you, Akinyi, Twila, and kt: I don't see your listings...:biggergrin::hmm:

LOL! That would explain why I've been referred to as "Huntress" before. :laugh: :cool:

Well, Twila, judging from the male following that you have in Ace Ian Combat's friends, it definitely does fit, as does the Huntress, as far as several of them are concerned (watching as Twila turns Kim-hair red from blushing).

I'm so glad I'm not that age anymore: I don't think I could go through the angst all over again: once was, most definitely, enough!

Meh, I've managed to avoid most of the angst by avoiding the urge to date; I've just never been interested in it and doubt I will be for a while. Besides, I'd want someone that I can carry a conversation with, an intelligent one, and I just can't do that with the guys around here. I end up having better luck getting a brick wall to understand what I'm saying.

@Twila: You wouldn't happen to be this Huntress, would you? :P Birds of Prey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_Prey_%28TV_series%29).

LOL! As much as I'd love to be the daughter of The Dark Knight and Catwoman, I'm afraid not. :P

But people tell em I do look a lot like Rose/Huntsgirl from American Dragon.

[Ace Ian Combat]

Meh, I've managed to avoid most of the angst by avoiding the urge to date; I've just never been interested in it and doubt I will be for a while. Besides, I'd want someone that I can carry a conversation with, an intelligent one, and I just can't do that with the guys around here. I end up having better luck getting a brick wall to understand what I'm saying.

@Twila: You wouldn't happen to be this Huntress, would you? :P Birds of Prey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_Prey_%28TV_series%29).

LOL! As much as I'd love to be the daughter of The Dark Knight and Catwoman, I'm afraid not. :P

But people tell em I do look a lot like Rose/Huntsgirl from American Dragon.

:laugh: Alright then, I'll keep your identity a secret.:P I can see the resemblance though.:D

I've been mistaken for Bigfoot if that helps, although the eyewitness reports of two teens on illegal substances shouldn't account for much.:laugh:

[Twila Starla]

Meh, I've managed to avoid most of the angst by avoiding the urge to date; I've just never been interested in it and doubt I will be for a while. Besides, I'd want someone that I can carry a conversation with, an intelligent one, and I just can't do that with the guys around here. I end up having better luck getting a brick wall to understand what I'm saying.

@Twila: You wouldn't happen to be this Huntress, would you? :P Birds of Prey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_Prey_%28TV_series%29).

LOL! As much as I'd love to be the daughter of The Dark Knight and Catwoman, I'm afraid not. :P

But people tell em I do look a lot like Rose/Huntsgirl from American Dragon.

:laugh: Alright then, I'll keep your identity a secret.:P I can see the resemblance though.:D

I've been mistaken for Bigfoot if that helps, although the eyewitness reports of two teens on illegal substances shouldn't account for much.:laugh:


LOL! Never been mistaken for that! :laugh:

[Ace Ian Combat]

Meh, I've managed to avoid most of the angst by avoiding the urge to date; I've just never been interested in it and doubt I will be for a while. Besides, I'd want someone that I can carry a conversation with, an intelligent one, and I just can't do that with the guys around here. I end up having better luck getting a brick wall to understand what I'm saying.

@Twila: You wouldn't happen to be this Huntress, would you? :P Birds of Prey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_Prey_%28TV_series%29).

LOL! As much as I'd love to be the daughter of The Dark Knight and Catwoman, I'm afraid not. :P

But people tell em I do look a lot like Rose/Huntsgirl from American Dragon.

:laugh: Alright then, I'll keep your identity a secret.:P I can see the resemblance though.:D

I've been mistaken for Bigfoot if that helps, although the eyewitness reports of two teens on illegal substances shouldn't account for much.:laugh:


LOL! Never been mistaken for that! :laugh:

Well, like I said, they weren't in their right minds, and when I fell in a hole they thought I jumped over a fence.:blink: I'm glad those two teenagers moved away soon after, they gave me the creeps since I was only twelve to thirteen at the time.

[Twila Starla]

Meh, I've managed to avoid most of the angst by avoiding the urge to date; I've just never been interested in it and doubt I will be for a while. Besides, I'd want someone that I can carry a conversation with, an intelligent one, and I just can't do that with the guys around here. I end up having better luck getting a brick wall to understand what I'm saying.

@Twila: You wouldn't happen to be this Huntress, would you? :P Birds of Prey (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birds_of_Prey_%28TV_series%29).

LOL! As much as I'd love to be the daughter of The Dark Knight and Catwoman, I'm afraid not. :P

But people tell em I do look a lot like Rose/Huntsgirl from American Dragon.

:laugh: Alright then, I'll keep your identity a secret.:P I can see the resemblance though.:D

I've been mistaken for Bigfoot if that helps, although the eyewitness reports of two teens on illegal substances shouldn't account for much.:laugh:


LOL! Never been mistaken for that! :laugh:

Well, like I said, they weren't in their right minds, and when I fell in a hole they thought I jumped over a fence.:blink: I'm glad those two teenagers moved away soon after, they gave me the creeps since I was only twelve to thirteen at the time.

Wow, talk about wierd! I'll say it sounds like they were on something! :rolleyes:

[Ace Ian Combat]

:laugh: Alright then, I'll keep your identity a secret.:P I can see the resemblance though.:D

I've been mistaken for Bigfoot if that helps, although the eyewitness reports of two teens on illegal substances shouldn't account for much.:laugh:


LOL! Never been mistaken for that! :laugh:

Well, like I said, they weren't in their right minds, and when I fell in a hole they thought I jumped over a fence.:blink: I'm glad those two teenagers moved away soon after, they gave me the creeps since I was only twelve to thirteen at the time.

Wow, talk about wierd! I'll say it sounds like they were on something! :rolleyes:

And strong too apparently. I've never run as fast from a camera as I did then.:laugh:

For some reason Twila, whenever I hear a song from one of your videos I immediately connect it with the proper K.P. characters. I wonder why...:laugh:

[Twila Starla]

:laugh: Alright then, I'll keep your identity a secret.:P I can see the resemblance though.:D

I've been mistaken for Bigfoot if that helps, although the eyewitness reports of two teens on illegal substances shouldn't account for much.:laugh:


LOL! Never been mistaken for that! :laugh:

Well, like I said, they weren't in their right minds, and when I fell in a hole they thought I jumped over a fence.:blink: I'm glad those two teenagers moved away soon after, they gave me the creeps since I was only twelve to thirteen at the time.

Wow, talk about wierd! I'll say it sounds like they were on something! :rolleyes:

And strong too apparently. I've never run as fast from a camera as I did then.:laugh:

For some reason Twila, whenever I hear a song from one of your videos I immediately connect it with the proper K.P. characters. I wonder why...:laugh:


I have a knack for connecting KP with music I suppose, because frankly, I get that from many viewers, and I myself suffer from it whenever I listen to my music. :P :thumbup:

[Ace Ian Combat]

I have a knack for connecting KP with music I suppose, because frankly, I get that from many viewers, and I myself suffer from it whenever I listen to my music. :P :thumbup:

I get that bug myself sometimes. I can see scenes in the my mind that sadly, sometimes do not exist in the K.P. realm.:laugh:

[Twila Starla]

I have a knack for connecting KP with music I suppose, because frankly, I get that from many viewers, and I myself suffer from it whenever I listen to my music. :P :thumbup:

I get that bug myself sometimes. I can see scenes in the my mind that sadly, sometimes do not exist in the K.P. realm.:laugh:

I know! I hate when that happens! Being a girl of such vivid imagination can be both a blessing and a curse. :P

[Ace Ian Combat]

I have a knack for connecting KP with music I suppose, because frankly, I get that from many viewers, and I myself suffer from it whenever I listen to my music. :P :thumbup:

I get that bug myself sometimes. I can see scenes in the my mind that sadly, sometimes do not exist in the K.P. realm.:laugh:

I know! I hate when that happens! Being a girl of such vivid imagination can be both a blessing and a curse. :P

Yeah.

I made the mistake of wearing my pirate shirt yesterday to school, not knowing my one friend who hasn't voted had just finished Ch. 4 of Ron Droppable in Computers class. He immediately blurted out "You're Ace Ian Combat dude!" loud enough for the whole class to hear. The icing on the cake was when more than half the class responded, "Well duh.", "No, really?", or "Did you just now figure that out?" :laugh: I for one didn't know that many people knew that. I learned later he meant it as a joke; he didn't actually figure out that was it me until the sarcastic remarks of the class.:laugh:

Three of my friends blushed when I told them Twila Starla and cpneb said thanks for voting.:laugh::biggergrin: